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    Give the Tory Party some small credit- they've embraced the Age of Steam, universal postal services and mass media.

    If Johnson's going to fcuk up, he will. Even if being caught on the job with Arlene Foster and a dead horse might not be enough to do it...

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      He was in the Bullingdon Club with Cameron, wasn’t he? I presume they all had the same induction ritual ...

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        Originally posted by Lucy Waterman View Post
        That's a very disappointing timescale. All the previous ones have given around two months for membership voting, which would have given much more scope for Boris to fuck up.
        Well there's a surprise....

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          Originally posted by Rogin the Armchair fan View Post
          He was in the Bullingdon Club with Cameron, wasn’t he? I presume they all had the same induction ritual ...
          I hold no brief whatsoever for David Cameron, but that unsubtantiated rumour was printed in a book ghost written by the vile Isabelle Oakeshott paid for by Lord Ashcroft who had a vendettta against Cameron because he didn't give him a promised job, possibly after his financial affairs came under scrutiny

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            If you are Gove or Hunt, might you be better off in the long term if you come third, thereby avoiding being monstered by the Boris-Besotted media for the next month?

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              I'm not really sure why they even need, what, five weeks or so, for the members to decide. It's hardly going to be two unknowns slugging it out. Their policy positions, personalities, strengths and weaknesses are well-enough known. If the plan is for hustings the length and breadth of the country and then a couple of weeks for the postal votes to be delivered to CP HQ or whoever's doing the count (the ERS perhaps) then fair enough, but if all we're talking about is a couple of TV debates, which are unlikely to yield any surprises, then it seems too long.

              I still can't really see any way that Johnson loses. If his poorly thought-through Brexit plans were up against another candidate's water-tight strategy and were exposed as such, I could just about see the CP membership moving to the latter. But Gove and Hunt's ideas are no better that Johnson's.

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                Johnson and his ego will want to destroy Gove but his team will want Hunt. I'm just sure we're totally fucked whoever wins. It's just SNAFU or FUBAR really.

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                  Originally posted by Nocturnal Submission View Post
                  I'm not really sure why they even need, what, five weeks or so, for the members to decide. It's hardly going to be two unknowns slugging it out. Their policy positions, personalities, strengths and weaknesses are well-enough known. If the plan is for hustings the length and breadth of the country and then a couple of weeks for the postal votes to be delivered to CP HQ or whoever's doing the count (the ERS perhaps) then fair enough, but if all we're talking about is a couple of TV debates, which are unlikely to yield any surprises, then it seems too long.

                  I still can't really see any way that Johnson loses. If his poorly thought-through Brexit plans were up against another candidate's water-tight strategy and were exposed as such, I could just about see the CP membership moving to the latter. But Gove and Hunt's ideas are no better that Johnson's.
                  Given the age profile of the average Tory member, safe to rule out any form of electronic voting.

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                    Hunt edges out Gove, 77-75.

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                      Johnson up to 160 votes

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                        https://twitter.com/anandMenon1/status/1141755836202672128

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                          Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
                          Hunt edges out Gove, 77-75.
                          that's so tight there's been a LOT of shenanigans

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                            Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
                            Hunt edges out Gove, 77-75.
                            If it had been 76-all would there have been penalty kicks on Westminster Green?

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                              So.

                              Buller Boi vs Rhyming Slang Man


                              Huzzah!

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                                Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post

                                Given the age profile of the average Tory member, safe to rule out any form of electronic voting.
                                Eh?

                                You're advocating a demonstrably corruptible voting system should be used instead of an indelible mark on a piece of paper?

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                                  Who should we trust out of Boris Johnson and Max Hastings? Let's ask convicted fraudster Conrad Black!

                                  https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/...id-trust-more/

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                                    This is all like the Jeremy Kyle show for rich people. If nothing else this whole circus is at least shining a light on a degenerate class

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                                      True. But I expect there won’t be any consequences, as per.

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                                        Originally posted by Duncan Gardner View Post
                                        Give the Tory Party some small credit- they've embraced the Age of Steam, universal postal services and mass media.

                                        If Johnson's going to fcuk up, he will. Even if being caught on the job with Arlene Foster and a dead horse might not be enough to do it...
                                        You're going too far. Dead horses have better taste.

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                                          Regarding voting methods, it would make sense for gammons to go postal.

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                                            On Newsnight yesterday, Ruth Davidson clearly stated that she wants the next PM to have mental capacity. Aim high and dare to dream.

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                                              She's supported Javid, Gove and now Hunt so far. She knows how to pick a winner.

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                                                Well she knows that Boris's picture is going to be on most pro-independence Posters.

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