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    I kind of knew him back in college. Though managed not to speak directly to him once. He was mostly comprised of a massive superiority complex, with a lot of the stylistic trappings, but you could see early on that the whole thing was constructed entirely out of insecurity. There is a lot of that going around wherever people in their late teens and early 20's gather. but it was particularly severe in this case. He was a bit of an odd fish. He won the International Mace, which is the debating competition that covers all of these islands, however he wasn't actually enrolled to do his fourth year, and finish his degree.

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      He (I assume you are referring to Massie) is a far better writer and more perceptive and acute than most Scotch Unionists like Deerin, far less willing to be an obvious cheerleader for the egregious Davidson, and the posh boy chutzpah seems far less evident than in earlier writings.

      Probably because he knows and understands fuckers like Johnson so well, he seems genuinely terrified about what is to come.

      he also seems to represent that strand of Toryism that is culturally Scottish (as late as 1955 the dominant majority expression of Scottish political identity and small n nationalism was the Tory Whip taking Unionist Party, now Scottish Toryism is dead bar Border and NE culchies and the rump Orange red White and Blue Underpants/comfortable selfish cunt vote in the Central belt: then Slab from 1964 to 2007 was the next Hegemonic Standing Up For Scotland party to implode almost completely) and is now an endangered species (I'd bet folk like him are far more nationalistic in a non political sense than central belt plebs like me). Like the Redmondites of yore they are about to be swept away but.

      Rory Stewart to an extent represents another branch of these Border Whimsyists the Tories suddenly have no room for I guess.
      Last edited by Lang Spoon; 18-06-2019, 23:50.

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        Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
        Looks as though Corbyn is the only bastion against Brexit

        [URL]https://twitter.com/chakrabortty/status/1140887807952674817?s=21[/URL]
        This was talked about on a local radio phone in show this morning, where they'd spoken to people from the local Tory parties, including some who participated in the survey.

        Basically, losing Scotland or Northern Ireland from the union, and trashing the Tory party or the economy were all "project fear" options, so therefore totally unrealistic. Corbyn becoming Prime Minister is a realistic option if Brexit doesn't happen, so they had to actually consider that one. 39% would still take Brexit, and a subsequent Labour government though. Presumably because Labour would be blamed for all the after effects.

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          So in other words, 60% of Tory members are too thick to understand the concept of a hypothetical question.

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            Originally posted by David Agnew View Post

            This was talked about on a local radio phone in show this morning, where they'd spoken to people from the local Tory parties, including some who participated in the survey.

            Basically, losing Scotland or Northern Ireland from the union, and trashing the Tory party or the economy were all "project fear" options, so therefore totally unrealistic. Corbyn becoming Prime Minister is a realistic option if Brexit doesn't happen, so they had to actually consider that one. 39% would still take Brexit, and a subsequent Labour government though. Presumably because Labour would be blamed for all the after effects.
            That's similar to what Theo Usherwood said on LBC.

            Eddie Mair was also on form yesterday asking if Johnson was too busy to attend Sunday's debate because it was father's day.

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              https://twitter.com/shahmiruk/status/1141070378086875136?s=19

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                Why hasn't Jacob Rees-Mogg run?

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                  Because he's a disaster capitalist who stands to make millions from Brexit, but wants no part of the responsibility of clearing up the mess afterwards, would be my guess.
                  Easier to lob bombs in from his position as an "outsider." And this way wherever happens he can avoid any blame.

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                    Johnson will probably make Rees-Mogg Chancellor. I'm more worried by that than the thought of Boron as PM.

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                      Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post
                      Eddie Mair was also on form yesterday asking if Johnson was too busy to attend Sunday's debate because it was father's day.

                      Haha - excellent!

                      Mair loathes Johnson.

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                        Ian Blackford’s just called Boron a racist in PMQs. That’s going to have repercussions...

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                          Originally posted by Rogin the Armchair fan View Post
                          Johnson will probably make Rees-Mogg Chancellor. I'm more worried by that than the thought of Boron as PM.
                          Yep...

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                            Ian Blackford calling out Johnson's racism during PMQs, very explicitly.

                            (ed- six minutes after Rogin said it, and I've just realised I had paused it for a few minutes earlier....)

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                              Originally posted by hobbes View Post
                              Because he's a disaster capitalist who stands to make millions from Brexit, but wants no part of the responsibility of clearing up the mess afterwards, would be my guess.
                              Easier to lob bombs in from his position as an "outsider." And this way wherever happens he can avoid any blame.
                              Smart man.

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                                Unsurprisingly Raab has decided to latch himself to one of Johnson's winnets following his colleagues' rejection of him in the last round.

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                                  You expect them all to talk unicorn shit about Brexit, but what slapped me up sharp was Tories talking about the "need" for austerity again - and thanking the British people for their "sacrifices" - and talking about the piss-awful state of health, care and education services as if it genuinely was nothing to do with them. I was reading a book about volcanoes with my daughter at the time and we had to leave the room to stop me unleashing a volley of swears.

                                  And the "illogical football analogy" and "revealing you neither know nor care a fuck about Ireland" klaxons needed regular sounding.

                                  They're terrible, even by the standards of Tories. But they're also terrible because they're Tories.

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                                    Originally posted by E10 Rifle View Post
                                    "revealing you neither know nor care a fuck about Ireland" klaxons needed regular sounding
                                    At least they know which countries it's in

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                                      Unlike?

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                                        Originally posted by Duncan Gardner View Post

                                        At least they know which countries it's in
                                        Huh?

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                                          Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post
                                          Why hasn't Jacob Rees-Mogg run?
                                          Stood.

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                                            Originally posted by E10 Rifle View Post
                                            You expect them all to talk unicorn shit about Brexit, but what slapped me up sharp was Tories talking about the "need" for austerity again - and thanking the British people for their "sacrifices" - and talking about the piss-awful state of health, care and education services as if it genuinely was nothing to do with them. I was reading a book about volcanoes with my daughter at the time and we had to leave the room to stop me unleashing a volley of swears.

                                            And the "illogical football analogy" and "revealing you neither know nor care a fuck about Ireland" klaxons needed regular sounding.

                                            They're terrible, even by the standards of Tories. But they're also terrible because they're Tories.
                                            T'other way about, surely?

                                            People become Tories because they're terrible.

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                                              Stewart finally out:

                                              http://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1141391624179785734

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                                                The Jolyons will be in mourning now. The King Across the Water.

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                                                  When you talk about jolyons, All I can think of is the completely bonkers album Paddy Glackin made with Jolyon Jackson back in 1980. This album is super strange now, I have no idea what it must have seemed like the time.

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                                                    Never read any Galsworthy then?

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