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[MsD]

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The Norwegian model was brought to my attention by a leftwing male friend, concerned as I am with the safety of both women in host countries, and refugees, whatever their attitudes to women. Some are mightily confused, as the articles above show.

If we ignore the situation or write it off as "what white men have been doing for years, without the same fuss being made", what will be the outcome? Gropers being stabbed, entirely innocent refugees and dark-skinned people being attacked, attitudes towards migration hardening. Women once again having their freedoms curtailed.

Refugees need to be integrated, and allowed to work (within the law), or given useful things to do, and have to be made aware of the boundaries where sexual behaviour is concerned, if they aren't already. It does no-one any favours to let them become rootless sex pests or petty criminals roaming in packs.

Edit: to let a minority of them become those things, obviously. The majority are fine, but the incidents in the news are enough to cause a problem that is more than mere moral panic.

[linus]

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dalliance wrote: It seems crazy that there's been 11,000 incidents of aggravated robbery around Koln's main districts and the police haven't hammered down on these gangs.

My view of (West) German police is always going to be unfairly tainted by their Inspector Clouseau like incompetence from the 1970s around the time of the Munich Olympics and Baader-Meinhof.

Baader-Meinhof, like their Red Brigades Italian counterparts and contemporaries, was probably part of the Gladio umbrella false flag operations, so it might not have been just a matter of plain incompetence.

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

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linus wrote:

It seems crazy that there's been 11,000 incidents of aggravated robbery around Koln's main districts and the police haven't hammered down on these gangs.

My view of (West) German police is always going to be unfairly tainted by their Inspector Clouseau like incompetence from the 1970s around the time of the Munich Olympics and Baader-Meinhof.

Baader-Meinhof, like their Red Brigades Italian counterparts and contemporaries, was probably part of the Gladio umbrella false flag operations, so it might not have been just a matter of plain incompetence.

I knew Gladio involved NATO sponsoring fascist paramilitaries to act as stay-behind forces.

Obviously that stuff largely continues uninterrupted in that NATO member states continue to covertly provide support/cover for far-right paramilitary groups (e.g. NSU in Germany, Grey Wolves in Turkey).

Are you saying that at the same time, they also ran leftist paramilitary groups to increase fears of communism? Or that actions allegedly perpetrated by leftist groups were in fact carried out by the state?

Is there any evidence of that?

[MsD]

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The Baader-Meinhof were real. You could probably ask Astrid Proll, she's still around, in London and writing the odd piece (there's a book, I haven't read it).

[DCI Harry Batt]

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Would "gropers being stabbed" be such a terrible thing?

[Glass Half Empty]

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I guess not to anyone who thought that validating vigilantees and condoning private justice was a valid way to pursue criminal justice. I would have a problem with it though.

[DCI Harry Batt]

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You people and your lack of nuance. Maybe toro was right all along.

[MsD]

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A cheeky knee in the bollocks might be a more proportionate response.

Edit: to gropers, not to TonTon.

[Glass Half Empty]

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Ah.. serves me right for jumping into a thread

[DCI Harry Batt]

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Haha

[linus]

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Bizarre Löw Triangle wrote:

It seems crazy that there's been 11,000 incidents of aggravated robbery around Koln's main districts and the police haven't hammered down on these gangs.

My view of (West) German police is always going to be unfairly tainted by their Inspector Clouseau like incompetence from the 1970s around the time of the Munich Olympics and Baader-Meinhof.

Baader-Meinhof, like their Red Brigades Italian counterparts and contemporaries, was probably part of the Gladio umbrella false flag operations, so it might not have been just a matter of plain incompetence.

I knew Gladio involved NATO sponsoring fascist paramilitaries to act as stay-behind forces.

Obviously that stuff largely continues uninterrupted in that NATO member states continue to covertly provide support/cover for far-right paramilitary groups (e.g. NSU in Germany, Grey Wolves in Turkey).

Are you saying that at the same time, they also ran leftist paramilitary groups to increase fears of communism? Or that actions allegedly perpetrated by leftist groups were in fact carried out by the state?

Is there any evidence of that?

Yes, there is solid evidence of that. For instance, the 1969 Piazza Fontana bombing in Milan, which started a decade-long deliberate state terror campaign called "strategy of tension", designed to marginalize the left and set up a security state/right wing military coup. The Piazza Fontana and other bombings were widely blamed on leftist groups, but carried over by right-wing terrorists connected to intelligence services, as part of Operation Gladio, which operated across Europe and NATO.

Far left terrorist groups like the Red Brigades were either infiltrated and enabled, or even put together by Gladio operatives to carry out bombings. The codename of the Gladio branch in Greece was "Red Sheepskin", which kind of gives away the gameplan and objectives.

The best research on the subject in English is being done by Basel history professor Daniele Ganser (author of “NATO’s Secret Armies - Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe”). Excerpt:

...Felice Casson, an Italian judge who during his investigations into right-wing terrorism had first discovered the secret Gladio army and had forced Andreotti to take a stand, found that the secret army had linked up with right-wing terrorists in order to confront “emergency situations”. The terrorists, supplied by the secret army, carried out bomb attacks in public places, blamed them on the Italian left, and were thereafter protected from prosecution by the military secret service.

"You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game,” right-wing terrorist Vincezo Vinciguerra explained the so-called “strategy of tension” to Casson.

“The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security. This is the political logic that lies behind all the massacres and the bombings which remain unpunished, because the state cannot convict itself or declare itself responsible for what happened."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/GAN412A.html

[Central Rain]

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For balance, it should be pointed out that Ganser's work has had some pretty scathing reviews and it is not exactly universally accepted that he has produced "solid evidence".

[linus]

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This particular field of research is arguably the most explosive dossier (no pun intended) in European postwar history. That in itself will garner it a highly controversial character.

Nevertheless, most of the "solid evidence" here is encapsuled in court findings in Italy, and statements by people like judge Casson, former Italian president Andreotti or protagonists like Vinciguerra, as opposed to being based on theories formulated by pundits or historians. Ganser's book mostly ties this public source evidence together.

[GCostanza]

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https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12729006_1759709130916229_3795624323401097646_n.jp g?oh=69fa007d2bc678e0582ef8d1f33bbabd&oe=5726763A

[Kevin S]

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I'm very hesitant about clicking on a random looking link in this thread. Can you explain what that is, at all?

[Sean of the Shed]

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Cowards.

[GCostanza]

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Kevchenko wrote: I'm very hesitant about clicking on a random looking link in this thread. Can you explain what that is, at all?

A link to a photo.

If you want to edit, feel free.

[GCostanza]

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No manners, clearly!

A map from Facebook.

[Duncan Gardner]

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It's a map contrasting both the geographical size of Western Europe vis a vis Lebanon, and the number of refugees currently living within their borders.

Talking of which, there's a similar row going on down near the Germany- Austria frontier. It's Passau aggressive.