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  • Nefertiti2
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    What’s good about that?

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  • DCI Harry Batt
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    I think one of the most excellent things about Labour's better-than-expected defeat in 2017 is the complacency it has engendered among supporters.

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  • Flynnie
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    Why would I worry that much about a poll which has Labour with approximately 20% of the deficit they had going into the 2017 election? I’ve read some of Dom Cummings’ manifesto, it’s just as coke addled as anything Nick Timothy came up with.

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  • DCI Harry Batt
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    How do you debunk a UK GE poll?

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  • Snake Plissken
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    That poll (and the associated ones) has been thoroughly debunked by people actually looking at the background data used to compile the supporting findings published in the Telegraph.

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  • DCI Harry Batt
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    (A huge proportion of those who vote vote tactically)

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  • DCI Harry Batt
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    That would be an interesting outcome

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  • George C.
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    That and a failure by pig-headed idiots, of all hues, to embrace Tactical voting.

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  • Sporting
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    FPTP has so much to answer for.

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  • George C.
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    https://twitter.com/flaviblePolitic/status/1161017270258348034?s=19

    The 'great' British public 'speak'?

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  • johnr
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    Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View Post

    I suppose it's possible that they'll negotiate a deal and tell the public they did a terrible job, and had been wrong for the past 3 or 4 years when they'd been saying they could have negotiated a good deal that would allow a good-for-Britain Brexit. I'm not sure that's a compelling message to sell about party competence. Like other aspects of Labour policy, I'm being asked to take a lot on faith that they'll do the right thing even when saying that they won't.
    You seem to be wilfully misreading and/or misrepresenting my point - for example, neither I nor Labour have ever said they'd negotiate a 'good for Britain Brexit' - so I think I'll stop there.

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  • DCI Harry Batt
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    Originally posted by Moonlight shadow View Post
    Those people are complete and utter arseholes and should fuck off and..well, you know.

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  • Lang Spoon
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    And now McDonnell has sparked civil war at Slab Branch Office by appearing to be sanguine on IndyRef 2. Beautiful.

    if only Wings over Scotland cunt wasn't threatening to be Scotland's Bath based Trump right now.

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  • Lang Spoon
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    San B speaks for me. You are presupposing a level of sophistication as yet undemonstrated if you think the British electorate will back a party/Govt that will negotiate a unicorn new deal and then urge The People to vote against it. It's pure hilarious eejitry if that's actually the strategy.

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  • Moonlight Shadow
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    In the meantime....

    https://morningstaronline.co.uk/arti...-understanding

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  • San Bernardhinault
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    Originally posted by johnr View Post

    Their stated policy position is to negotiate a deal so that the public have something to vote on, and put that to a referendum with Remain as an option. That's it. I don't know why you're insisting that they'll campaign to leave in that scenario, because they've never said they would. And whenever individual positions have been put forward - Starmer, McDonnell - they've said they'll campaign for Remain. No party position has been laid out yet, but that will be at conference, and it's very very likely to be Remain too.
    I suppose it's possible that they'll negotiate a deal and tell the public they did a terrible job, and had been wrong for the past 3 or 4 years when they'd been saying they could have negotiated a good deal that would allow a good-for-Britain Brexit. I'm not sure that's a compelling message to sell about party competence. Like other aspects of Labour policy, I'm being asked to take a lot on faith that they'll do the right thing even when saying that they won't.

    All of this is redundant, of course, because we will almost certainly have left the EU before any election happens. We're just playing with hypotheticals. I think that Labour have done a piss-poor job, but not one that's made a huge amount of difference.

    The next step is arguing for re-entry into the EU. And, once again, I'd be much more comfortable if the main opposition party actually explained the benefits of the policy that is opposite to the the policy of the Tory government, and explained why, particularly, we should have free movement, rather than either staying silent on the matter or dog-whisting as in their 6 tests.
    Last edited by San Bernardhinault; 11-08-2019, 00:15.

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  • hobbes
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    Amlodipine for me.
    I'm still steering clear of accelerants these days though.

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  • DCI Harry Batt
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    Yeah thanks, seems to be. GP is happy.

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  • johnr
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    Probably for another thread. But I hope it's working, it's done wonders for my BP.

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  • DCI Harry Batt
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    Haha. I am already on the ramipril, ta.

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  • johnr
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    On the contrary. Excellent time to start.

    If you're worried, get yourself on remapril, then you can take what you like.

    TAB, it's odd that you quoted me saying 'so far', and then ignored that I'd said 'so far'...

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  • DCI Harry Batt
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    Ah right, of course. Never tried one. 52 yo with high blood pressure probably isn't the time to start.

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  • Lang Spoon
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    Ecstasy. Fur the love buzz ken. Want a massage?

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  • DCI Harry Batt
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    What are eccies, and why would one share them?

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  • Lang Spoon
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    I see there's been no sharing eccies and getting a love buzz this past week on the board so.

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