Yeah this thread is a history lesson. Back in 2015 people were confident he wouldn't be leader at the next election ... in 2020. He led the party in 2 elections before 2020 and outlasted 2 Tory leaders.
I was never a believer but he did better than I ever thought possible.
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The idea of Corbyn running for mayor sounds like people adding two and two together and getting 10. That people who like Corbs might want him to run is plausible, that he'd take them up on it less so. Won't happen, and is a daft idea at his age. And also because he wouldn't be very good at it
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This was the energy that Corbyn connected to. great to know that it's still out there despite the best efforts of the entire media class, Starmer,
https://twitter.com/AdamRamsay/status/1551129687992188928?s=20&t=fVtRML-vU1gVkmlR1J4DJw
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I'm posting this not as an ad hominem but to show how bad a set of ideas can become, even in good faith. I only needed to get to page 3 to find something that Starmer might have said last week. The idea that we "need the consent of the business community" (but note, not the unions) makes you wonder what the point of the Labour Party even existing is supposed to be.
Originally posted by Lucy Waterman View PostCorb Blimey!
Well, my primary answer to that would be that you don't arrestca rightward drift by abdicating from being an electable opposition. Because that allows the Tories to go further right with impunity, not fearing any damage at the polls.
The Labour Party in power has an obligation to roll back some of these frontiers, but they can only do that with the consent of the British people, and that includes the business community and the press.
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Assuming Labour wouldn't select him, all that would do is give a free pass to the Tories.
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Having read Owen Jones' book 'This Land' I sincerely hope he doesn't. He's a appalling administrative politician; McDonnell would be a far better bet.
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Not sure how serious this is
https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1550375760556445697?t=5ZHItwIjg8Gm6HZR8HuPtA&s=19
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]Originally posted by TonTon View PostI just had a look back at early pages. Wowzers. Like looking back at some of the France anti-muslim law stuff on here. Some really rotten stuff from some. Mostly as far as I can tell people who've left. Or maybe I've blocked, but the. I think I'd see evidence of them now.evwn if not whole.posts.
So, you know, on the bright side, this place has got better.
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this from the now departed Lucy Waterman made me smile
Is it appalling to suggest that the leader of the opposition should be trying not to piss people off for no good reason?
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I just had a look back at early pages. Wowzers. Like looking back at some of the France anti-muslim law stuff on here. Some really rotten stuff from some. Mostly as far as I can tell people who've left. Or maybe I've blocked, but then I think I'd see evidence of them now, even if not whole.posts.
So, you know, on the bright side, this place has got better.Last edited by DCI Harry Batt; 25-07-2021, 16:15.
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This is probably the best place for this thread
https://twitter.com/barneycarroll/status/1419239428506140672?s=21
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Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Postall we need now is for the Conservative Party to nationalise sausages for a clean sweep.
https://twitter.com/dsquareddigest/status/1248577690786988033
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The final quote in the Observer article:
“People might ask me in 30 years ‘what did you achieve in your time in politics?’,” he says. “I’m no fan of this government obviously. But still, I will be able to say I helped prevent Jeremy Corbyn from leading us through a huge national crisis. And to be honest, I’ll take that.”
And that from someone who was once a Labour MP (Gavin Shuker).
Probably better off in the wtf thread.
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As it’s now clear was the “people’s vote” campaign.
count the corpses.
they’re on you.
meanwhile in some light relief
https://twitter.com/ralflittle/status/1251919278783303684?s=21
all we need now is for the Conservative Party to nationalise sausages for a clean sweep.
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Observer article where the people behind Change UK admit that it was about stopping Corbyn and not stopping Brexit.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e_iOSApp_Other
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It was good - very good - whilst it lasted. Could have been (much) better, of course, but there we are.
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I liked that, though it is written from an exclusively English perspective without ever acknowledging that fact.
Outside of England, there are certainly options for young progressives other than the Lib Dems.
This is of course not uncommon in ostensibly "UK" commentary, but I think that is part of the problem, particularly when it comes to Labour.
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Originally posted by Duncan Gardner View PostHer point is that Hoey eats dead babies. But of course if Labour had been a little less regressive at any time in the last 30 years she could easily have been persuaded to return to Antrim South and lose Labour's deposit
That and she clearly no longer supports Corbyn in any format.
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