Well, hang on. Her motives may have been malign, but that doesn't automatically follow. An injustice may have been done while the complaint was made in good faith.
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
Corb Blimey!
Collapse
X
-
Originally posted by Lucy Waterman View PostWell, hang on. Her motives may have been malign, but that doesn't automatically follow. An injustice may have been done while the complaint was made in good faith.
Comment
-
Agreed, as johnr said, both could have been acting in good faith and misunderstood. However, she didn’t go from that meeting and try to examine any of that, or to explain why she, as a Jewish person, may be sensitive to certain insinuations; an approach that would have led to a sympathetic conversation and perhaps more awareness on the part of shouty activists. Instead, she declared it to be anti-Semitism.
Comment
-
Yeah, the made up thing about how people walking down a street is racist.Last edited by Lucy Waterman; 28-04-2018, 09:54.
Comment
-
Making an approving comment about an anti Semitic mural: NOT RACIST
Saying Hitler was a Zionist: NOT RACIST
Posting an arguably racist comment on Facebook, then apologising and saying "I was being racist": NOT RACIST
Walking down a street with fellow MPs: RACIST
Comment
-
https://twitter.com/GHNeale/status/989967000616210434
She lied that she was in tears. She said he had used "traditional antisemitic slurs" referred to him as "people like this" accused him of "vile conspiracy theories about Jewish people" and said that Wadsworth's intervention proved hat a Labour Party under Corbyn's stewardship "cannot be a safe space for British Jews"
It's pure bullshit, lucy. To my mind what’s worse is it trivialises real antisemitism from the unpleasant “Rothschild” & “Zio” posts from some on the left & many on the far right too to the thankfully few physical attacks on Jews (around 70 last year including spitting) to the IMO far more troubling open anti Semitism of the governing parties in Poland and Hungary.Last edited by Nefertiti2; 28-04-2018, 10:33.
Comment
-
the (pretty good) Chakrabarti report which was discredited on no evidence and then not implemented by Ian McNicoll.
And if McNicol blocked it, where the heck was the leader? He wants to be Prime Minister, and can't get an agreed report implemented in his own party? Just like he can't get Livingstone kicked out? I mean, this is pretty useless. How's he going to handle "Sir Humphrey"? Everybody might as well give up now, and appoint David Milliband.
You could, in good faith, conclude that Corbyn didn't really care about any of this much. I don't think that's true, but you could think that. I'm not going to waste too much of my time defending somebody on the basis they're just inept, so it's OK.Last edited by Tubby Isaacs; 28-04-2018, 10:40.
Comment
-
So the explanation is that Corbyn's inept? Naively trusting of the wrong sort, like Ian McNicol, maybe?
I think that's probably true. But I'm not going to be knocking on doors on his behalf.Last edited by Tubby Isaacs; 28-04-2018, 11:01.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View PostSo the explanation is that Corbyn's inept? Naively trusting of the wrong sort, like Ian McNicol, maybe?
I think that's probably true. But I'm not going to be knocking on doors on his behalf.
Comment
-
- Jan 2012
- 3296
- Worthing
- The Hammers, until Mark Noble goes.(he's still there, sort of)
- Garibaldi, dipped in tea.
Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View PostSo the explanation is that Corbyn's inept? Naively trusting of the wrong sort, like Ian McNicol, maybe?
I think that's probably true. But I'm not going to be knocking on doors on his behalf.
Comment
-
Originally posted by MsD View PostWadsworth WAS accused of anti-semitism by Smeeth and others at the time; she deleted her posts about it and seems to have withdrawn that particular charge, partly because footage was being shared and her account questioned.
In one video that I can no longer find, someone was talking quietly to Smeeth at the meeting saying "anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism" when Wadsworth was making his address.
Comment
Comment