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    Originally posted by Lucy Waterman View Post
    Itís going to be some pretty impressive Whataboutery if Labour goes after everyone whoís made a Downfall meme.

    They should sack her, you canít say something like that and remain a shadow minister. But even Seumas in his quote stops short of calling it anti-senitism, because it isnít.
    True- though some of "Corbyn's inner circle" are Jewish.

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      I don't think it is anti-semitism no, but I'd put a mortgage on someone like Streeting claiming it was if uttered by someone closer to Corbyn.

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        Iím certainly not about to mount a defence for the burning intelligence and mighty political talent of Wes Streeting.

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          Actually, I'm not Jewish so I'm not allowed to define what anti-semitism looks like.

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            I note that the Hodge article and the Gavin Shuker one a couple of days ago aren't being opened up to comments.

            Steve Bell also had a cartoon remain unpublished.

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              Originally posted by Snake Plissken View Post
              Actually, I'm not Jewish so I'm not allowed to define what anti-semitism looks like.
              Yeah, but quite a lot of Jewish people are being excluded from defining anti-semitism at the moment too.

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                Originally posted by Snake Plissken View Post

                Steve Bell also had a cartoon remain unpublished.
                In a world of such misery, we should be thankful for every small mercy.

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                  Hereís the Steve Bell Cartoon the Guardian wouldnít publish

                  [URL]https://twitter.com/markdistef/status/1151433968044171272?s=21[/URL]


                  in response Dave Rich of the ĄCommunity Safety Trustď found a Cartoon Bell drew of Henry Kissinger with a big nose -in 1983.

                  [URL]https://twitter.com/daverich1/status/1151479982012686337?s=21[/URL]
                  Henry Kissinger is Jewish.

                  He is also a mass murderer.

                  the Ąvery big noseď looks like a penis.



                  Last edited by Nefertiti2; 18-07-2019, 10:02.

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                    Think this is really good- as a video and as a strategy.

                    https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1152190522162896897?s=20

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                      Simon Wren Leiws's weekly column for the New Statesman was initially published on their website and then pulled. No explanation given

                      Here is the column https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/201...-to-prime.html

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                        Jason Cowley night actually be a worse Sensible cunt than Stig fuckin Abdell.

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                          Simon Wren Lewis is good at words. I'm not sure why the New Statesman thought that fewer people needed to read that rather than more.
                          Last edited by The Awesome Berbaslug!!!; 20-07-2019, 01:11.

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                            On the subject of people who are good with words, Tom Watson was on the Twitter earlier, complaining about the symbolic censuring of Hilary Armstrong by her local party, and proclaiming this "misdirected mob justice degrades our great party."

                            You know, the same Tom Watson who accepted the claims of Nick the Paedophile at face and used the protection of parliament to smear innocent men with child sex abuse allegations. Whipping up a handy dose of "misdirected mob justice" in the process.

                            https://twitter.com/tom_watson/statu...19980606849026

                            Like Hodge the other day, either no self-awareness at all, or a near-psychopathic level of chutzpah.

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                              Hilary Armstrong... Hilary Armstrong... Hilary Armstrong... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-to-Blair.html

                              Labour's high command is planning "show trials" for its most disloyal MPs which could lead to their deselection before the next election unless they pledge loyalty to Tony Blair.



                              The extraordinary attempt to stamp discipline on the mutinous Westminster party is being championed by Hilary Armstrong, the Chief Whip.

                              She wants at least six of the most persistent rebels to be dropped as candidates by the ruling National Executive Committee unless they agree to mend their ways.

                              A Labour minister said last night that Miss Armstrong was ready to order a list of habitual rebels to appear before the NEC in the summer as part of a crackdown on "serial disloyalty".

                              [...]

                              A senior Labour figure cited the names of six MPs who could expect to be asked to make a vow of loyalty before the NEC as the price for having their candidacy endorsed.

                              They are Bob Marshall-Andrews, who has voted against the party whip 51 times since the 2001 election; John McDonnell, with 79 votes against; Jeremy Corbyn, 87; Lynne Jones, 57; Diane Abbott 36; and Mike Wood, 25.
                              That Hilary Armstrong?

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                                It does look like her, doesn't it? Still, let's not rush to conclusions. There might have been two Hilary Armstrongs, holding the office of Labour Party Chief Whip in 2006.

                                I particularly liked this line: "Last week Mr Blair claimed his Left-wing critics were part of an "auld alliance" with the Tories who wanted to defeat Labour governments."

                                Yeah, like the 'centrist' critics working with the Tories to damage the Labour party in 2017, Tone?

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                                  Originally posted by Snake Plissken View Post
                                  Hilary Armstrong... Hilary Armstrong... Hilary Armstrong... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-to-Blair.html



                                  That Hilary Armstrong?
                                  Iím not sure that is sufficient reason to expel her from the party. It seems a low bar.

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                                    Hahahahaha.

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                                      isn't this a load of shite about a load of shite? Only the NEC can expel members, surely, and so this is a case of a CLP passing a meaningless resolution. Hold the front page!

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                                        But Hilary is very sad.

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                                          Hilary Vainshite

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                                            Of course it's all bollocks. But it is an attempt to damage the Party and that is the main thing.

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                                              I thought it was good to know about. Itís not all that interesting in itself, but itís indicative of the broader situation that unless you are fully supportive of Corbyn, youíre not welcome in the Labour Party. People like me need to be reminded of this, there are too many who still havenít reconciled themselves to getting out of Dodge.
                                              Last edited by Lucy Waterman; 21-07-2019, 14:26.

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                                                Bollocks. The only way to make yourself unwelcome in the Party is if you are attempting to wreck it.

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                                                  If people - as in this CLP motion - subjectively equate criticism and disagreement with trying to wreck the party, then weíre basically saying the same thing.

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                                                    She signed a full page advert saying Corbyn had "failed the test of leadership". I doubt she sees it as wrecking the party, I'm sure she thinks that's what Corbyn is doing. But it goes some way beyond "not being fully supportive" of Corbyn.

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