The atmosphere is already poisonous, Tubby. Those dogwhistles are no longer pitched at the level where only far right dogs can hear them and they're being blown every fucking day.
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Labour have been milquetoast shit on the one area where radical reform would be very popular (housing), still banging on about “affordable” homes. Such a bullshit weasel word. They have been fucking woecious, left or right, on immigration, and therefore the Single Market. Listening to folk who mostly didn’t vote Labour, they are endangering their core vote even oop north. Cos the silly fuckers haven’t read their prof Curtice, and don’t seem to get that Brexit was won in the fucking Home Counties. 2/3 of Labour voters went remain. Only one percent less than the SNP. Even in the North.Last edited by Lang Spoon; 10-05-2018, 19:22.
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Labour have committed to council house building more than any main party has for 30 years. Whether the retrenched right-leaning tendency that is in control of large swathes of Labour local government wants to deliver on that is open to question. Labour nationally also want to radically redefine how "affordable" housing is measured. They're doing Ok on this.
Education is an area I'm a bit worried about. Way too timid about reasserting democratic local control of schools, ending academisation and properly fleshing out the National Education Service. Maybe all the internal wrangling and Brexit kerfuffling is stalling progress but work needs doing.
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They are still talking about the housing ladder. Buying will not be an option for millions of people, ever. They really have to make private rent secure and attractive for folk with the uncontrollable urge to buy, curbs in rent increases, as well as a proper program of mass social housing building.
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Yeah, I think it's easy to give too much credence to "voted Labour all my life but...". That's always happened, it's people getting more right wing as they get older, if indeed these people are even telling the truth at all. Curtice's bare numbers ought to be persuasive enough, but when you adjust for age, it should be obvious. My constituency had estimated 54% Leave. That's likely a majority of Labour voters voting Remain, and probably a good majority of Labour voters under 65. Unfortunately, the local MP is in the Shadow Cabinet.
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Berbaslug, if you lived over here that kind of talk (about expelling councillors that didn't build enough council houses) would have you at the centre of a Momentum Thug Bullying Storm and denounced daily in the papers by 'under siege' Labour backbenchers.
So more of this talk please. You're on the right lines
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Originally posted by E10 Rifle View PostBerbaslug, if you lived over here that kind of talk (about expelling councillors that didn't build enough council houses) would have you at the centre of a Momentum Thug Bullying Storm and denounced daily in the papers by 'under siege' Labour backbenchers.
So more of this talk please. You're on the right lines
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Originally posted by E10 Rifle View PostMeanwhile, I've just had an email from Labour HQ asking me if I want to stand in Lewisham East. Whatever else this process is, it's not a closed shop stitch-up.
And I have strong views on this Millwall FC CPO business
I was shocked and very pleasantly surprised.
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- Jan 2012
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- Worthing
- The Hammers, until Mark Noble goes.(he's still there, sort of)
- Garibaldi, dipped in tea.
Originally posted by Lang Spoon View PostThey are still talking about the housing ladder. Buying will not be an option for millions of people, ever. They really have to make private rent secure and attractive for folk with the uncontrollable urge to buy, curbs in rent increases, as well as a proper program of mass social housing building.
1. Reintroducing fixed term interest local authority mortgages
2. Buying back Social Housing rather than paying rent to profiteers.
3. Requisitioning empty accommodation to house people in dire need.
4. Permit eviction from Council funded accommodation only in cases of criminal behaviour that threatens staff and other residents.
5. Support the legal occupation of temporary accommodation where the landlord has demonstrated no inclination to use or refurbish it within the last twelve months.
6. Publish the Council’s housing benefit costs paid to private landlords to show the affordability of the above policies, naming the top 5 private landlord recipients.
It led to some proposals to limit rents, stop 'buy-to-let' (including the comment 'anybody who rents out a property to make money is not a socialist' - discuss.), build more houses, etc.
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I think it's a very good idea to publish the total clearly though. To demonstrate affordability of the policy, you'd have to publish the cost of buying places as well.
In E2, the maximum housing benefit is about £13,000 a year. To buy a one bed flat would cost around £300,000. Very broad brush, that's something like 23 year minimum to pay back. That's quicker than some infrastructure projects, so just on those terms it's worth considering. Would be a big call for Tower Hamlets council to buy lots of one bed flats on this basis, but I heard that Westminster (of all places) was buying council places back. Interesting.
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- The Hammers, until Mark Noble goes.(he's still there, sort of)
- Garibaldi, dipped in tea.
Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View PostWhy are you publishing the names of landlords there? Not enough of them let to housing benefit tenants as it is.
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Originally posted by johnr View PostI have a feeling that the proposer knows that, in Brighton, it's known that there's a number of private landlords who own hundreds of properties, and that their approach to their tenants isn't always the most charitable; it's been that way for a long while, with one of the most notorious being Van Hoogstraten.
Not just because they let to lots of housing benefit tenants.
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But I think what you are more likely to find if you publish the list is that there are virtually no small scale landlords who are letting to social tenants, and that in fact the system of housing benefit, rather than the construction of council houses is essentially a scam to transfer large sums of public money into a small number of grossly profiteering private hands.
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View PostBut I think what you are more likely to find if you publish the list is that there are virtually no small scale landlords who are letting to social tenants, and that in fact the system of housing benefit, rather than the construction of council houses is essentially a scam to transfer large sums of public money into a small number of grossly profiteering private hands.
People have suggested that lots of politicians are landlords and it's not in their interest to reduce the unregulated private rental sector. Or that they want to keep house prices high to prop up a certain type of economy, and get re-elected as voters feel great about their houses getting more expensive.
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