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    Exactly, but it’s just like the increasingly bewildered looking Sillars being given decent Scottish airtime and paper coverage when talking his pro-Brexit, Climate change sceptic Pro-fracking bollocks. As long as people still know who Livingstone is, and he’s in some way linked to the Labour Party or its leadership, he’ll gladly speak shite to whoever calls him up. His ego must be monstrous (though that can hardly be unique in that line of work).
    Last edited by Lang Spoon; 18-10-2017, 19:57.

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      Corbyn is off to meet Barnier and some EU Prime Ministers tomorrow. He's playing a blinder.

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        I'm glad to hear he's fit and well, and hasn't laughed himself into a hernia at the letter Suella Fernandes and the Tory kipper loons sent him.

        I've still got some doubts on Brexit, but it's good that he's going. He'll likely surprise them pleasantly too- many of them will have read a load of rubbish about him. Very promising.

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          Report on allegations v Ian Lavery from the Sunday Times and Newsnight.

          https://www.gov.uk/government/upload..._215T-8-16.pdf

          Been skimming it, one thing looks pretty irregular. But I'm not a lawyer, so anyone?

          Mr Ian Lavery ceased to be General Secretary of the Union when he was
          elected as MP in May 2010.
          31.The Union and Mr Lavery stated that the post of General Secretary and
          therefore, Mr Lavery, were made redundant in May 2010. Both the Union
          and Mr Lavery were given the opportunity to provide documentary evidence
          to show a process or decision by which Mr Lavery was made redundant.
          Neither were able to do so and stated that no such documentary evidence
          existed.
          So he got a new job as an MP, and got £85k for redundancy happening just at that moment, with no paperwork. There were no complaints from any union member, so it looks like Lavery was well-regarded. But it's not a very good look, to say the least, is it?
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            I'm not a massive fan of Skwawkbox but they've got a bit of background on it here

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              I'll try, but straightaway there's "regurgitate old news". The report's been published, that's why it's news.

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                Re: Tubby and Burgon on RT: https://politicalscrapbook.net/2017/...an-labour-mps/

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                  Loach's NYT letter is like Sean Spicer cleaning up after Trump, if the interview transcript is an accurate record of the discussion. History is there to be discussed, yes, but Holocaust denial is not a discussion about history but a libel against survivors and relatives.

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                    In which the Member for Sheffield Hallam proves to be worse than Nick Clegg:

                    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rls-aloud-orgy

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                      Not really. He may have made a lot of extremely stupid remarks when he was 21 but he never kept David Cameron in power.

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                        After the nonsense against Clive Lewis failed to fly- Bercow virtually laughed it out of Parliament today- Jared's stepped up to the plate nicely. The bit about Michelle McManus is rather worse than it sounds on there- witless and nasty.

                        Candidates are supposed to warn the party about this sort of stuff. I think a period without the whip beckons.

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                          The failure to disclose that history has put his local party in the shit. I don't see how he would be able to defend the seat at the next election.

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                            Not going to defend the remarks, but everyone says ill-advised shit when they are 21. The problem is that we no longer have the anonymity of the pub to say it in and the internet never forgets. Hell, I'm fairly careful about what I say online and I've got twenty years for someone to sift through and pull something out of context.

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                              Anyway, next time he will learn to pick a different target. Maybe Libyan bodies on a beach.

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                                Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                                The failure to disclose that history has put his local party in the shit. I don't see how he would be able to defend the seat at the next election.
                                Given that they were rushing to Tesco at midnight to get him a decent suit when it became clear he might actually win the seat, I would suggest that they are not blessed with an excess of squeaky clean pre-vetted candidates.

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                                  OK, so the huge gaffe here is to then nominate an un-vetted MP for a very sensitive Committee where misogyny and body fascism is an obvious disqualifier.

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                                    The worry had to be there's more of this stuff. It isn't the worst thing an MP (or future MP) will have ever done but the drip drip could be extremely damaging.

                                    I think resigning the whip might be best. It's taking personal responsibility, giving the leader some space, and some sort of process can happen. Then he can come back, with a clean slate.

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                                      Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View Post
                                      After the nonsense against Clive Lewis failed to fly
                                      Eh? I think it's pretty clear it wasn't nonsense. At the thinner end of the sexist wedge, perhaps, but the apology Lewis gave was definitely required and I'm glad it was made. I don't think anyone could reasonably defend what he said.

                                      As to O’Mara, surely some evidence is needed of how he is a reformed character now, and doesn't carry such prejudices. Resigning a whip is tokenism. I want to see him engage his brain and show some empathy.

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                                        The nonsense, I assume Tubby is referring to, is the Ghani stuff.

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                                          Certainly that. And I think the furore itself. It was basically him doing an S&M joke, wasn't it?

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                                            I don't know anything about this stuff, you understand but don't they dress up with dog collars etc?

                                            And re O'Hara, yeah he'll have some work to do while he's whipless. I'm assuming he'd do that when I talk about clean slates etc.

                                            I think some kind of code is needed re social media for MPs and Spads. The godawful ex MP for Peterborough, Stuart Jackson, was incredibly unpleasant to a constituent on there. But didn't stop him coming back in a senior role working for David Davis.

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                                              Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View Post
                                              And I think the furore itself. It was basically him doing an S&M joke, wasn't it?
                                              I think that's unacceptable. It could equally sound like a 'rape joke', or at the expense of someone (male or female) who's been assaulted as the victim of male physical dominance.

                                              P.S. there was some discussion about it here

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                                                That Blaxploitation defence there is truly awful.

                                                I don't accept that a joke about S&M is like a joke about rape really.

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                                                  Well Labour has suspended O'Mara, and rightly. The stuff from 15 years ago you can wave away –*I know a few people who were out and out bigots in 2002 that are sound socialists today – but the other, more recent stuff is a good deal more problematic and needs to be dealt with. However much we might have wanted to big him up in June as someone around whom a good-results-narrative could be so easily built (local working-class lad with cerebral palsy unseats dishonest, posh Tory-enabling git in great Labour gain), it can't just be hand-wringed away.

                                                  Just goes to show the selection of candidates needs time, rigour and democratic transparency, on all sides.

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                                                    Originally posted by E10 Rifle View Post
                                                    Just goes to show the selection of candidates needs time, rigour and democratic transparency, on all sides.
                                                    A friend's cousin was elected in 2015 for the SNP and, having met him a couple of months before the election, it was pretty clear that he wasn't expecting to win. He subsequently got some grief for how his finances were set up for tax purposes (he previously worked in the oil industry). In more normal circumstances, he might have been weeded out had he wanted to progress to standing in a more obviously winnable seat.

                                                    The O'Mara selection process does seem to have been quite sloppy on Labour's part, given the dire state of the Lib Dems and the potential symbolic value in ousting Clegg, however much all parties claimed to have been surprised when it happened.

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