Corb Blimey!
Corbyn going to appoint 12 new Shadow Cabinet members and carry on, so he says.
Corbyn going to appoint 12 new Shadow Cabinet members and carry on, so he says.
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I've been willing JC to succeed, as I find myself agreeing with much of what he says, despite wanting him to say, 'tell you what Hamas, I'll be your friend when you grow the fuck up with the anti-Semitism, homophobia and misogyny', but in the actually-existing world with the actually-existing media and his actually-existing character, it's as plain as the nose on my face that his time is up. Over the past few years the senior managers at my employers have taken to calling themselves leaders. Turns out they're a pack of moral cowards who couldn't lead a sing-song. This bloke may not be a coward, but he's no leader either.
I mean, and apologies, but he's called fucking Jeremy.Comment
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You know, for crying out the loud, the BBC should be leading with 'where's Boris hiding (talking of moral cowards)', but they're having to do this story. If he'd gone yesterday, the focus would be back on the Tory mess.Comment
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He's been playing cricket at the Spencers' pile.
Yes, really.Comment
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Koenssburg doing a hatchet job on Corbyn again.Comment
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Finally she's on the Left's side!Comment
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Is he likely to find 12 willing volunteers? Tubby, any thoughts?Tubby Isaacs wrote: Corbyn going to appoint 12 new Shadow Cabinet members and carry on, so he says.Comment
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Nope. I'm afraid the country, and the Labour Party, have gone a bit frantic the last couple of days. Calm heads need(ed) to prevail.Tubby Isaacs wrote:Funny he lasted till this late in the day.Originally posted by Lucy Waterman
Lord Bassam can't be a Corbynite. He'll be gone soon.
That Corbyn hasn't resigned yet doesn't suggest much self-awareness. He's in Thatcher "I'm staying, I got more than Hestletine" territory.
This has practically nothing to do with Brexit. It'd be ridiculous to say that there's a whole bunch of Labour MPs who - despite electoral results that were far better then they had predicted - would be prepared to take any moment to try and get rid of him, even at existential risk to their own party, so I won't.
Corbyn won't go anywhere cos at the moment he can't see anybody who could carry his agenda forward, that he could 'annoint', and carry his supporters - who have changed the make-up of Labour for a generation. Most aren't going anywhere - except to oppose Labour should they go rightwards.
And there's absolutely nobody on the right who has got any stated agenda, except some vague stuff about 'reconnecting' - I've asked around, and all I can find out is that there's a 'must sort immigration out' vagueness. I think we know where that's going.
Bassam occasionally turns out for my cricket team. Never been known as a man of great principle, so he'll go the way of the blowing wind. The last two words also describe his cricketing skills.Comment
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Outrageous backtracking from Leave campaigners, coyness from wannabe PMs, no action or sign of a plan from the Government. So clearly the main story of the day is Labour's internal squabbling...Comment
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I reckon they're looking for Miliband. Batley & Spen?
Which would be a fucking disaster.Comment
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He should be resigning for not fighting to stop Labour people getting sucked into xenophobia.Comment
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Dalglish's Principle suggests that there may be nothing to do but let them get it out of their systems.
Edit: to johnr.Comment
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'the Tories are trying to sell you the socialism if fools - that if we get rid of foreigners, there will be jam for everyone. Well, we're Labour people and we're better than that, we're smarter than that - Europe helps us all to have more jam, we just need to share it a little more fairly'
Again, where was this sort of thing?Comment
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Ah, i think it has everything to do with Brexit. It's the first time that this has been remotely viable, because there are the first indicators that a sizeable number of supporters have realised Corbyn cannot get a campaign message across.johnr wrote:Nope. I'm afraid the country, and the Labour Party, have gone a bit frantic the last couple of days. Calm heads need(ed) to prevail.Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs
This has practically nothing to do with Brexit. It'd be ridiculous to say that there's a whole bunch of Labour MPs who - despite electoral results that were far better then they had predicted - would be prepared to take any moment to try and get rid of him, even at existential risk to their own party, so I won't.Comment
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Just to be clear, I'm no Corbynista. I'd take anyone with his message who is a better communicator.
Why anybody would call for his resignation at a time when the polls are drawing level, and electoral results are pretty good - and handing, absolutely on a gold-rimmed plate, a snap election to Johnson at a time when the Tories could be about to implode - beggars belief. It's the most febrile of political gestures, just when people round the country could do with a bit of calm. I'm hoping he can show that bit of calm, but it's clear that prospects are bad for Labour.Comment
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I am not a good tipster, but I'd class DM going for Batley as about as likely as a resurrected Christ running for it.johnr wrote: I reckon they're looking for Miliband. Batley & Spen?
Which would be a fucking disaster.Comment
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Electoral results are AWFUL, John. Are you talking about Tooting? If we were heading anywhere, we'd have won that by +10k in a by election protest situation.johnr wrote: Just to be clear, I'm no Corbynista. I'd take anyone with his message who is a better communicator.
Why anybody would call for his resignation at a time when the polls are drawing level, and electoral results are pretty good - and handing, absolutely on a gold-rimmed plate, a snap election to Johnson at a time when the Tories could be about to implode - beggars belief. It's the most febrile of political gestures, just when people round the country could do with a bit of calm. I'm hoping he can show that bit of calm, but it's clear that prospects are bad for Labour.
More importantly, the local election results spell absolute disaster.Comment
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McDonnell seems like a better communicator to me than Corbs, btw. Hilarious and completely comprehensible Mao jokes not withstanding.Comment
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Which supporters? I've seen one poll saying that only 70% of people who voted last year would vote for him again. But there were plenty - I know 8/9 myself - who didn't vote Labour but would now, which the poll didn't reflect. Febrile reaction ensues.Lucy Waterman wrote:Ah, i think it has everything to do with Brexit. It's the first time that this has been remotely viable, because there are the first indicators that a sizeable number of supporters have realised Corbyn cannot get a campaign message across.Originally posted by johnr
Which I guess is your point about 'no election yet'.Comment
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We have a different reading of the electoral results then, and these have been chewed over elsewhere here.Lucy Waterman wrote:Electoral results are AWFUL, John. Are you talking about Tooting? If we were heading anywhere, we'd have won that by +10k in a by election protest situation.Originally posted by johnr
More importantly, the local election results spell absolute disaster.
I accept your tip about Miliband (I've tried avoiding definite tips, cos I'm shit at it too), and I sincerely hope you're right.Comment
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Yeah, it's all anecdotal atm. But there does seem to be a shift. When the gormless Zoe Williams turns her back on a year of cheerleading, there is something in the air.
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I don't think anyone is craving the return of Miliband. Well, Blairites might be, but there's too few of them for it to matter. Everyone else knows he can't speak human.
(By Blairites I mean Blairites, not "anyone to the right of Seumas Milne")Comment
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On a purely personal note, for years - before I had a dog in the race, so to speak, with Corbyn - I've absolutely reveled in any party infighting stories, as they revealed again and again how self-serving most MPs are, and how out of touch with 'ordinary people' - me - they are.
However, I know now how painful and frustrating it can be, and I'm losing sleep. Last night I was laying awake at 1.30am thinking about Hilary Benn, which can't be good for anybody. I need to find something else to think about.Comment
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Tempted to join Labour to vote for Corbyn if there's a leadership challenge (I didn't last time).
Not that I think Corbyn is a particularly good leader, I just think having a leader of the Labour Party who isn't willing to scapegoat migrants is pretty necessary given the massive increase in racism over the last 5-10 years.
Also watching the Blairites cry when Corbyn wins again will be pretty fucking sweet.Comment
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