http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33750709
"Hard working people"
Fucking prick.
"Hard working people"
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Are there really any public sector workers who don't speak English? Hats off to them, they did very well to get through the application and interview stages.
Quite amused that the example they have of an immigrant's poor language skills having tragic consequences is of a German doctor. Not really who that dog-whistling policy is targetting I would have thought, as helpfully illustrated by the BBC's stock picture. -
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Don't a lot of English-born people not have a C at GCSE English?Comment
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Typically weird BBC website story.
This:
In no way sounds the same as this:People who do not speak fluent English will be barred from public sector jobs which involve working directly with the public, the government has said.
Since when did fluent equate to a GCSE?From September, NHS staff and council workers will be among those required to have language skills equivalent to GCSE grade C or above.
Later it says 138,000 people in the Uk don't speak English. It's up to them I'd say, but in any case, 1 in 500 really doesn't sound like many to me.Comment
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What level of English do you need to collect bins? Grade C at GCSE?
How did they manage when huge swathes of the working class left school without taking any exams at all?Comment
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What are "language skills equivalent to GCSE grade C or above"? That doesn't mean anything. Do they have to write an essay about Silas Marner like I had to?
But then, these turds don't think it's a problem anyway. It's just dog-whistle racism week now that they're on their epic public sector summer holidays.Comment
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An essay on Silas Marner is English Literature, not English Language.Comment
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This story comes up every few years.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-14921565
In 2011, it says an EU directive stopped health professional bodies testing for EEA staff for language competency, but that employers could.
I see a woman there is in "Cure The NHS", which I thought was Julie Bailey and a few friends.
Rules changed in 2013, and professional bodies allowed to test.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24962494Comment
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2014
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26839888
NHS staff with poor English 'can be struck off'Comment
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Yeah, there was just 'English' at my school. We didn't do any 'language' really (in fact, we barely did 'language' in my Eng Lit & Language degree, just a little translation of Middle English).Guy Potger wrote: An essay on Silas Marner is English Literature, not English Language.Comment
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My understanding of Dr Ubani's case was that his language skills were not so much the issue as his unfamiliarity with a shitload of opiates; I'm no linguist but I would have thought a numeric 100 is the same in German as it is in English.
Another 5 years of these wankers in the UK- thank God I had a chance to get out and beat the rush.Comment
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As an EU immigrant to the UK, I wonder where exactly you draw the line of the category that you so colorfully describe as "these wankers".kiwicherry wrote: Another 5 years of these wankers in the UK- thank God I had a chance to get out and beat the rush.
Kindly fuck off, or stick to the football subforum.Comment
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I meant the Tories. Sorry, no offence intendedComment
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This:
Doesn't even make any sense.Managers will have to test employees can "communicate effectively with the public".
Cabinet minister Matt Hancock said it was to help control immigration.Comment
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As a non-EU immigrant to the UK, how the fuck did you so spectacularly misinterpret kiwicherry's post?Smallcaps wrote:As an EU immigrant to the UK, I wonder where exactly you draw the line of the category that you so colorfully describe as "these wankers".Originally posted by kiwicherry
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Dr Daniel Ubani doesn't look like your stereotypical German, though.Fussbudget wrote: Quite amused that the example they have of an immigrant's poor language skills having tragic consequences is of a German doctor. Not really who that dog-whistling policy is targetting I would have thought, as helpfully illustrated by the BBC's stock picture.
And this
Doctors working in the UK are already required to have a much higher level of English and are tested by the General Medical Council.
The risk of a healthcare professional not being fluent was highlighted by a mistake made by Dr Daniel Ubani, a German doctor who gave a lethal dose of a painkiller to patient David Gray in 2008.
seriously misrepresents the issues in that case. The problem wasn't lack of English skills, it was him giving ten times the maximum dose! Those are numbers, unless I'm very much mistaken. And there was a reason why he prescribed ten times more diamorphine than anybody should ever take in one go - he was a specialist in cosmetic medicine trying to do general practice. He was simply unqualified.Comment
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Landlords must force out filthy failed asylum seeker non-hardworkers or face sanctions, I hear on the radio this morning.Comment
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Isn't this on Theresa May's watch though?Eggchaser wrote: Landlords must force out filthy failed asylum seeker non-hardworkers or face sanctions, I hear on the radio this morning.Comment
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None taken by anyone apart from Smallcaps, I should think.kiwicherry wrote: I meant the Tories. Sorry, no offence intended
Anyway, welcome!Comment
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Didn't this lark of having landlords check immigration status have to be dropped before?Eggchaser wrote: Landlords must force out filthy failed asylum seeker non-hardworkers or face sanctions, I hear on the radio this morning.
Or did the Lib Dems veto it? So the Tories can have another go and blame someone else when it goes wrong, like judges?Comment
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I have a B in GCSE French. Fussbudget may care to comment on the likelihood of me getting on in the French civil service.Comment
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The landlords checks was indeed vetoed by Clegg, I see here, and that's why it's been revived.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/03/british-citizens-without-passports-being-turned-away-by-landlords
Never mind, the pilot in the West Midlands is going well.
British citizens without passports being turned away by landlordsComment
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Well Flynnie, let's inspect it, shall we?Flynnie wrote: As a non-EU immigrant to the UK, how the fuck did you so spectacularly misinterpret kiwicherry's post?
The first part of the first sentence has "My understanding..." as the subject, which is harmless enough. All the following signaling words ("his", twice) refer to Dr Ubani, the immigrant in this case. The part after the semicolon talks about language matters. The third part has "these wankers" in the very start, with no anchor to the reference words. In fact, there is no mention of "the conservatives" in this entire thread (except that Lucia Lanigan wrote about "these turds", but that's a rather dangling reference itself).kiwicherry wrote: My understanding of Dr Ubani's case was that his language skills were not so much the issue as his unfamiliarity with a shitload of opiates; I'm no linguist but I would have thought a numeric 100 is the same in German as it is in English.
Another 5 years of these wankers in the UK- thank God I had a chance to get out and beat the rush.
There is a post about a legal case, about an immigrant, and about language issues, that carries on with the phrase "these wankers". Kiwicherry's second post makes clear that I drastically misunderstood, for which my apologies, but since you ask, this is the reason why.Comment
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Apology accepted- I can see now how what I'd written could be misunderstood.Comment
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Lolz. That is definitely a sitcom waiting to be made.san2sboro wrote: I have a B in GCSE French. Fussbudget may care to comment on the likelihood of me getting on in the French civil service.Comment
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