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    I heard it through the grapewine

    Why isn't it with a W?
    Why grapevine?

    I love the english language. Because it's so wild and wide and rich and crazy. Was checking out some synonyms yesterday. That's one aspect I like. There are so many in english, and they all often mean slightly different.

    Anyhow, I came across this

    My research suggests that the word with the record number of synonyms that mean precisely the same thing is drunk. Although good may have 380 synonyms, many, many of these have different meanings across multiple contexts. Drunk means drunk: under the influence of alcohol to the point that you have lost your sensible decision-making capability. Here are 120 words that are synonyms for drunk. There are many more than I have listed here; this is just a solid sampling of the ones that I have heard.

    befuddled belligerent bent besotted blacked-out blasted blind blitzed blocked blotto boiled bombed bunkered bricked buttered buzzed caned canned clobbered cockneyed cranked crapulous crocked cut destroyed dipso dragged drunk embalmed euphoric fermented floating fried giddy gone groggy hammered hammerlocked happy high hooched impaired in rare form inebriated intoxicated juiced legless liquored-up lit loaded looped lubed lushed marinated mellow merry messed up obliterated obliviated out of it overloaded pasted pickled pie-eyed pissed plastered plotzed plowed polluted pounded ramboed ripped roaring rocked sauced sculpted shellacked shickered shitfaced slammed slopped up sloshed smashed snockered snookered sodden soused sizzled spaced stewed stiff stinking stinko stocious stoned swacked tanked 3 sheets to the wind tied one on tight tipsy toasted tomahawked torque trashed trolleyed tweaked twisted under the influence under the table under the weather unsober wallpapered wasted whipped wiped woozy wrecked zoned zonked

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    I heard it through the grapewine

    I'm sure EIM has at least 50 more him and his socialist friends use when they paint new banners for the upcoming game.

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      #3
      I heard it through the grapewine

      Because grapes grow on a vine not on a wine.

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        #4
        I heard it through the grapewine

        Jongudmund wrote: Because grapes grow on a vine not on a wine.
        I figured as much. It's not so much a question where I question it. It's an observation how language happens. Someone, somewhere decided it was a shit word to pronounce. vine. Started to say wine. Loads of people were probably on his arse for it. Like happens here on OTF. You can't leave a bleedin' . out without someone pointing it out. So Imagine all of OTF living back then around this bloke when he started saying wine instead of vine. He would have a spleen raptured by all complaints and fingerpointing.

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          #5
          I heard it through the grapewine

          No they aren't linked. Vine comes from the Latin and Wine comes from Germanic Old English. One didn't evolve from the other.

          You can make wine from all sorts of things e.g. sloes, damsons, ginger, elderflower. You can also have vines that don't produce grapes.

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            #6
            I heard it through the grapewine

            Oh, new lesson learned. Cheers.

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              I heard it through the grapewine

              Jongudmund wrote:
              You can make wine from all sorts of things e.g. sloes, damsons, ginger, elderflower. You can also have vines that don't produce grapes.
              Which obviously brings up a new question. What exactly is wine, then? How does it differ from.... let's pick moonshine where the base is plums?

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                I heard it through the grapewine

                Pietro Paolo Virdis wrote: Which obviously brings up a new question. What exactly is wine, then? How does it differ from.... let's pick moonshine where the base is plums?
                Wine's essentially fermented fruit, usually grapes

                Moonshine is distilled. The original brew can be made from pretty much anything.

                Brandy is distilled wine.

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                  I heard it through the grapewine

                  Pietro Paolo Virdis wrote: I'm sure EIM has at least 50 more him and his socialist friends use when they paint new banners for the upcoming game.
                  I don't do painting. I'm an ideas man.

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                    I heard it through the grapewine

                    Re the relatedness or otherwise of "wine" and "vine", I would be very surprised if it didn't turn out that either (a) the Germanic/Old English and Latin words for wine had a common ancestor in Proto-Indo-European or (b) the Germanic words originated as loan-words from Latin, linked to the introduction of vine-cultivation under Roman hegemony in the parts of Germany which came into the Roman empire.

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