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    If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

    Forbes Billionair list

    #2
    If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

    Seriosly, if you look at what they've all made their fortune on. To be rich on diamonds, porn, internet, internet-porn, banking, media, pharma, oil, telecom. That might be one thing. But how do you think #38 should be treated?

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      #3
      If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

      They can all fuck off. There's no need for anyone to have that kind of money.

      And more-so if they got it making beer.

      Billionaire's beer is piss.

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        #4
        If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

        I was impressed to see a chap who's wealth is from ball bearings that high up.

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          #5
          If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

          George Soros has done a huge amount for the education of Roma and raising awareness of the issues that they face. Much of the research I did for my dissertation into Roma education was dependent on studies carried out by his foundation.

          We are in a society that encourages a tiny but powerful minority to make lots of money so it is hardly a surprise that they do. Rather than attack the individuals for making money - unless they are actively participating in illegal or immoral activities, we have to change the system that enables this.

          I think there was a saying that, after you made your first million, the rest was just keeping score. I expect that it has now gone up to £10 million. However, once you are the other side of 10 or 20 million, it s quite hard to waste it unless you buy a football club or some other really stupid company. £100 million and it is virtually impossible even if you develop a crack addict and pay all your taxes so you are just going to keep on making money on your investments.

          I would rather the state funding the sort of work the Soros and the solar power guy are doing but, in its absence, at least they are.

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            #6
            If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

            caja-dglh wrote: I was impressed to see a chap who's wealth is from ball bearings that high up.
            why? They're in everything and they also own continental. The real shocker is that the fortune of the richest person in italy comes from nutella and ferrero Rocher

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              #7
              If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

              Who died a month ago. Comes to us all in the end.

              Not Ferrero Rocher. Death.

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                #8
                If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                I don't care what any conflicting evidence may say, Nutella is the most addictive substance on Earth.

                Michele Ferrero may well have just called himself Pablo Escobar and have done with it.

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                  #9
                  If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                  Line 'em all up, and...

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                    #10
                    If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                    I've never seen the point of these lists, including the Sunday Times's own Rich List, unless the purpose is to be that of a smug, baiting exercise that lets us meagre serfs know where we stand in this life. They had what they did then when publications like Forbes came out with these lists, an edge of callousness that almost celebrated divide, and an oleaginous wanking-based deference towards those who could buy the ground from under your feet. It's a tad uncomfortable knowing that there are people who live their lives probably forgetting how many thousands they earn a minute and who live lives so insulated by wealth that they've become insane (hello, Barclay Brothers!), but it becomes even more so when their suggested bank balances are flaunted in a Top Of The Pops-style countdown solely designed to kiss arse and remind us that They Are The Masters Now.

                    Inequality as triumph.

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                      #11
                      If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                      I wouldn't want to swap financial places with any of that lot, though. In terms of how having that kind of wealth would screw your life up, you don't even need to go as far as the touchy-feely "it would mess up your relationships with everyone who wasn't super-rich themselves in terms of envy, motive suspicion etc., in a way which would seriously depress anyone who wasn't a sociopath". No, there'd be a much more immediate and drastic impact on your life in terms of having to worry every day and night about the risk of kidnap of your nearest and dearest.

                      If I ever won a huge rollover on the Euromillions, say 40 or 50 million quid, I'd be totally paranoid about such things, and that's a tiny fraction - less than 1 per cent - of the wealth of most of those individuals.

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                        #12
                        If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                        Yeah that's a good post EEG. Being mega-wealthy can lead you to insulate yourself from most other humans. A terrible way to live. Better than starving, obv, but not healthy. What a phenomenally stupidly run world we live in.

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                          #13
                          If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                          Bored of Education wrote:
                          We are in a society that encourages a tiny but powerful minority to make lots of money so it is hardly a surprise that they do. Rather than attack the individuals for making money - unless they are actively participating in illegal or immoral activities, we have to change the system that enables this.
                          "The contemporary tendency in our society is to base our distribution on scarcity, which has vanished, and to compress our abundance into the overfed mouths of the middle and upper classes until they gag with superfluity. If democracy is to have breadth of meaning, it is necessary to adjust this inequity. It is not only moral, but it is also intelligent. We are wasting and degrading human life by clinging to archaic thinking.

                          The curse of poverty has no justification in our age. It is socially as cruel and blind as the practice of cannibalism at the dawn of civilization, when men ate each other because they had not yet learned to take food from the soil or to consume the abundant animal life around them. The time has come for us to civilize ourselves by the total, direct and immediate abolition of poverty."

                          - Martin Luther King.

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                            #14
                            If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                            These threads are great. They let everyone take their biases, cliches and prejudices out for a spring airing.

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                              #15
                              If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                              AND SHOOT THEM

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                                #16
                                If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                                Why hate the rich? It's hard to fathom.

                                A third of the population will not reach 60 in good health. And it’s income, not lifestyle, to blame

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                                  #17
                                  If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                                  Pietro Paolo Virdis wrote: Seriosly, if you look at what they've all made their fortune on. To be rich on diamonds, porn, internet, internet-porn, banking, media, pharma, oil, telecom. That might be one thing. But how do you think #38 should be treated?
                                  Who are all these villains in that list? Many of the names of the people - if not the companies - are easily recognizable. Most of them accumulated their wealth by building a company within our lifetimes. A few (the Walton heirs) helped grow the family firm well beyond what the founder did.

                                  Warren Buffett, it should be mentioned, has long been an advocate of harsher taxation on wealth. But he's not a legislator, and he can't make it happen. Instead he founded The Giving Pledge, getting the world's billionaires to donate most of their money to charities within their lifetime. Most on that list, above, have signed on to do so. Gates most notably, I'd say.

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                                    #18
                                    If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                                    It's always nice when thieves give a little stolen money away and expect plaudits for it.

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                                      #19
                                      If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                                      TonTon wrote: Why hate the rich? It's hard to fathom.
                                      Why would the same people who would recoil at the notion of hating 'the poor' be so quick to hate 'the rich'? Hating anyone based on a set of obscure parameters says more about you than it does them.

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                                        #20
                                        If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                                        TonTon wrote: It's always nice when thieves give a little stolen money away and expect plaudits for it.
                                        Again, where is this stolen money? You know...beyond the 'all property is theft' thing...

                                        Most of them earned it. Same way you earn yours. They just earned more of it.

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                                          #21
                                          If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                                          That's just silly. I mean, I don't expect us ever to agree in this area at all, which is fine.

                                          Getting and being rich are things people do. And they have consequences.

                                          No-one becomes rich from their own work, but from the work of others, which they take a large part of the value of for themselves.

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                                            #22
                                            If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                                            No, working is a thing you do. And sometimes it results in great financial success. But, believe it or not, it's rarely the goal unto itself.

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                                              #23
                                              If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                                              TonTon wrote: No-one becomes rich from their own work, but from the work of others, which they take a large part of the value of for themselves.
                                              So everyone who employs others is, by definition, 'evil' in some way?

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                                                #24
                                                If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                                                I don't tend to use the word evil. Certainly exploitative, yes. That's what profit is.

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                                                  #25
                                                  If you hate all the other, is #38 okey?

                                                  And why should those to take greater a) risk or b) initiative not see a greater reward? I can't see why this idea bothers you so much.

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