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    Camden Town, Meantime, Fourpure and their like. It's basically the same old fizzy p*ss but much more expensive and in a fancy tin.

    T'is all.

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    Craft beer is a 'thing' in Ireland now. As a beer lover, I have mixed feelings about that, which you basically hint at in your opening post.

    I feel, for the sake of accuracy, that you should amend your previous post to acknowledge that the fancy tin is lined with too many hops.

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      #3
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      It's going big in South Africa, too. And given the piss that is being sold here in the mainstream, I'm glad for an alternative to the only decent beer we get, Windhoek, from Namibia.

      I've tried a fair few craft beers; the range of those I've tried being extended by the taster option at a craft beer house in central Cape Town (you can choose five beers in taster glasses for the equivalent of under 2 quid). Some are better than others; some a very good.

      A pub down the road from where I work actually put up a sign bragging how "We don't sell craft beers", presumably because craft beers are effeminate and intellectual in the ways that corporate-sludge guzzling blokes aren't.

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        Camden Town brewery try to argue that beer tastes better in a can. Maybe their beer does, because on the whole, it's p*ss. But beer tastes best in a pint glass, if that's not available, a glass bottle, failing that, a plastic bottle of the 3L variety, failing that, anything. Worst comes to the worst, I'll drink from a can.

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          I drink locally brewed beer in the local. Not only is it dead tasty, it supplements the warm and fuzzy feeling of being boozed up with the warm and fuzzy feeling of helping a local business that is a social/charitable organization of sorts.

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            #6
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            I quite like Meantime's Yakima Red. It's not amazing or anything, but it's very drinkable.

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              #7
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              It's taking off in Ireland because people are jaded with the Big Five. Even my local has started selling Hop House 13, which admittedly is owned by Guinness/Diageo. I had a few pints of it on Thursday night while watching Besiktas-Liverpool. Not bad.

              Like G-Man, I'm just happy to have an alternative. I've been a Heineken drinker since I was 20 and there are times when you just become completely sick of it.

              Years ago, I went into a specialist hostelry near Croke Park with some friends, tried about four different craft beers, loathed them all, and fucked off to a conventional pub to get back on the Hoino before I wasted any more of my money. That experience put me off the concept of craft beer for a long time. Then, just before Xmas, a colleague gave me a few free bottles of this stuff, a case of which had been sent in to him. I really liked it and have been trying out various strains of pale ale since then.

              The East India pale ales suck like a hoover, mind you. I don't like the red ales either.

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                steveeeeeeeee wrote: Camden Town brewery try to argue that beer tastes better in a can. Maybe their beer does, because on the whole, it's p*ss. But beer tastes best in a pint glass, if that's not available, a glass bottle, failing that, a plastic bottle of the 3L variety, failing that, anything. Worst comes to the worst, I'll drink from a can.
                It has long been the argument that light through a bottle damages the beer. It isn't a particularly new idea. Your draft beer comes from a bloody huge can of course.

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                  #9
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                  Craft beers haven't registered in Bavaria, unsurprisingly; there's lots of medium-sized local breweries already.

                  They tend to be quite hoppy as a rule, don't they?

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                    #10
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                    There are loads of craft beers in Ontario, and as Stumpy says, there is a tendency for the majority to lean to the hoppy side.

                    Beau's Brewery out of Vankleek Hill (in the Ottawa area) puts out some quality beers. Mainly seasonal stuff, but their flagship Lug Tread lagered ale is quite nice.

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                      caja-dglh wrote:
                      Originally posted by steveeeeeeeee
                      Camden Town brewery try to argue that beer tastes better in a can. Maybe their beer does, because on the whole, it's p*ss. But beer tastes best in a pint glass, if that's not available, a glass bottle, failing that, a plastic bottle of the 3L variety, failing that, anything. Worst comes to the worst, I'll drink from a can.
                      It has long been the argument that light through a bottle damages the beer. It isn't a particularly new idea. Your draft beer comes from a bloody huge can of course.
                      That's the spin they're trying to use. Who on earth would keep their beer in an environment with lots of sunlight? You keep it somewhere dark like a cupboard or a fridge, just like wine, which tastes great out of bottle.

                      Beer from a can is instantly distinguishable even for someone with as poor a pallet as mine. I'd drink it because it's cheap, but don't feed me nonsense it tastes better because it doesn't.

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                        #12
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                        I much prefer drinking out of a bottle or glass, but if I had to choose blind between the same beer from a can and a bottle (served in a glass), I'm not sure I could tell the difference.

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                          Green Calx wrote: I've been a Heineken drinker since I was 20 and there are times when you just become completely sick of it.
                          Jesus, 20 years drinking only Heineken?

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                            Stumpy Pepys wrote: I much prefer drinking out of a bottle or glass, but if I had to choose blind between the same beer from a can and a bottle (served in a glass), I'm not sure I could tell the difference.
                            Yes, I'll admit if you leave canned beer to oxygenate for a while in a glass, the metallic taste does go away a bit, but it's still there.

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                              Carnivorous Vulgaris wrote: I'm not much of a beer drinker - Erdinger would be as far as I'd push it - but I found myself quite partial to beers from the Hook Norton Brewery in England. Old Hooky in particular is sublime.
                              Hook Norton would be a brewery, rather than a "craft" brewery. The craft with most craft breweries appears to be graphic design, used to make a very ordinary lager appear to be a thing of luxury.

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                                Carnivorous Vulgaris wrote: I'm not much of a beer drinker - Erdinger would be as far as I'd push it.
                                If it's the dark Erdinger you're on about, then you don't have to push it any further. I love that stuff.

                                I don't drink it, though. It gives my shit a gravy-like consistency and makes me feel knackered for at least 24 hours afterwards. And even if I were to clean my teeth constantly, I'm sure you can still smell it on my breath a week later.

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                                  #17
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                                  Stumpy Pepys wrote: Craft beers haven't registered in Bavaria, unsurprisingly; there's lots of medium-sized local breweries already.

                                  They tend to be quite hoppy as a rule, don't they?
                                  Riedenburger do a couple of very nice IPAs and a few other of the small Bavarian breweries have started offering some craft-beer-type brews. But the problem (if you can call it that) in Germany is that you have a huge range of breweries (multinational, national, regional and micro) that provide all the types, tastes and styles of beer you could possibly hope to find. I'm not a fan of the major lagers (König, Warsteiner, etc.) as I think they don't really taste of much at all but I have a lot of choice of local products to try (Faust being my current favourite, and I only discovered that as a mate of mine used to work there - Miltenberg isn't far away but you don't see their beer anywhere here), all still at a very reasonable price.

                                  So when German brewers make a craft beer, they tend to have to find a way to make it stand out in a very crowded market. And that normally means making it idiotically strong and/or piling on the hops in an extreme fashion, to the extent that the beers themselves aren't that enjoyable. Köstritzer have brought out a Pale Ale that is quite palatable but more than a couple of bottles of that and I'm talking gibberish.

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                                    #18
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                                    Warsteiner

                                    I'm suspicious of people who drink that, and I'm not entirely joking. You can't live somewhere with trillions of different beers and still prefer Warsteiner to everything else on offer. It ain't right.

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                                      #19
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                                      IPAs so fucking hopped they turn your mouth into a cat's anus. What's the fucking point in THOSE. Brewdog are dicks for this sort of thing.

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                                        #20
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                                        Testify.

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                                          #21
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                                          Once you hop, you can't stop.

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                                            #22
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                                            Try not to be a bor.

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                                              #23
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                                              IPA's have suddenly become a bit of a thing amongst the big Dutch breweries and Grolsch and now Brand have brought out versions. The Grolsch version ticks all the boxes, not too hoppy, balanced but I can't quite put my finger on why I don't like it.

                                              Brand is better but it's not Landlord. However this, this is the absolute best IPA I have ever tasted:



                                              Now you would trust the Belgians to be able to do most things beer-wise well and this is fantastic, my local offie has started selling it. It's 9% but beautifully balanced, the hops don't overpower and it's just delicious. If the gods of mount olympus had an official IPA supplier, it would be La Chouffe.

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                                                #24
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                                                Seconded. Chouffe Houblon is the best.

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                                                  #25
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                                                  is it better than this one ?

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