Greenland is not enough

[Wouter D]

Denmark is about to claim ownership of approximately the entire North Pole. Cue another round of this:

[Reed John]

Greenland is not enough

Norway has a pornstache.

[Wouter D]

Greenland is not enough

Yeah, make of that what you want.

Only upon re-reading, I realize that the comic itself doesn't contain a link to the site from which it came, so let me correct that omission.

[Reed John]

Greenland is not enough

The article is in Danish, I think. Which is hard for me to read.

[Wouter D]

Greenland is not enough

Well, it's not in my top-five languages either, but it's a germanic language so how hard can it be? Let's look at the abstract:

Danmark kræver ejerskab til enormt stykke havbund under Nordpolen – helt til den russiske grænse.

Denmark craves [ownership] to enormous [pieces] under the North Pole - to the Russian [border].

I don't know the parts between pointy brackets, and I realized that I cheated by knowing very similar equivalents in Dutch or German (but not English!) for the parts between straight brackets. So, in hindsight, for anglophones it's not as easy as I thought it would be.

Be a good sport and feed the article to Google translate, will you?

[Reed John]

Greenland is not enough

It didn't occur to me that it could do Danish. But it can.

14. December 2014 KL. 22:18
Denmark claims gigantic piece of the Arctic
rivalry. Denmark has in the Arctic seabed claimed more than 20 times its size. Completely over to the Russian-mile limit. The photo shows the Swedish icebreaker 'Oden' during an expedition in 2012, when the collected data for Denmark. - Photo: Thomas Funck, GEUS
Denmark requires ownership of huge piece of seabed under the North Pole - all the way to the Russian border.
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Adam Hannestad ADAM HANNE STAD
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Denmark will Monday afternoon become the first country in the world that requires full ownership of the North Pole. The move is part of a huge country claim the Arctic seabed, which according to Denmark is an extension of Greenland.

The requirement for the 895,000 square kilometers of seabed - more than 20 times the size of Denmark - means that Denmark will pull the outer limit of the Kingdom across the Arctic Sea and completely to Russia's 200-mile limit.

This takes Denmark emulation with Russia and Canada, which also marked a desire to own the symbolic point 4,300 feet below the arctic ocean, into a new phase. Both major countries have made it a political project.

The article continues below the graphic.

Increased geopolitical significance
In 2007, a submarine planted a titanium Russian flag on the seabed at the North Pole. And a year ago discarded Prime Minister of Canada a thorough report, which assessed that Canada has no right to the North Pole, and experts were asked to find better scientific evidence.

But Denmark is first with his final claim on the Arctic seabed. Prior has 12 years of intense work with this and four other claims in Greenland and the Faroe Islands: Overall it has cost 330 million dollars to gathering and analyzing research data in the often inaccessible areas.

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The money does not come immediately again. But no one knows whether, for example. 50 years be found an essential mineral in the underwater mountain ranges. In addition to ownership of the seabed increase Danish influence on the management of Arctic nature and enlarge the Danish vote in a future where the Arctic have increased geopolitical importance. We must therefore think long term, says Foreign Minister Martin Lidegaard (R):

"When these limits are finalized, so be they fixed forever. It is the one time in history, we have the opportunity to influence this here demarcation '.

Decision is 10-15 years away
The process of assessing the Danish requirement is expected to take 10-15 years.

A UN commission must determine whether the scientific data holder, and it is possible that all three countries were successful. So they must negotiate with each other, the commission has no right to assign territory.

READ Also Denmark and Greenland requires 62,000 square kilometers of seabed in the Arctic

Smooth is not. The Danish requirement is so extensive that it can act as a "provocation" against Russia at an unfortunate time, says one of the world's leading experts in Arctic Foreign and Security Policy, the Canadian professor Michael Byers.

Agreement with Russia
According to him, Russia is just now preparing its final bid on the seabed under the Arctic, but it is only expected to go to the North Pole - Russia is attaching up to a sharing of the symbolic point of Denmark and possibly Canada.

It may then be seen as a diplomatic opening at a time when tensions between Russia and the West is high. Michael Byers, therefore, proposes to Denmark postpone a bid in the hope that you can find an amicable agreement with Russia.

"It is ironic that the only country that right now can be said to act provocative in the Arctic, is Denmark. This is inconsistent with the tradition of constructive diplomacy, "said Michael Byers.

Lidegaard: Not aggressively
It rejects Lidegaard blank. It is from pure science that Denmark has the right to the huge territory:

"This is not an aggressive act. It is an attempt to honestly classify the geological data, "he says.

READ Also Danish satellite sent into space: the objective is better monitoring of the Arctic

Many activists Encourages the Arctic states, including Denmark, to give up their claims in the Arctic Ocean.

"North Pole is one of the few places that gets people to think about the planet instead of individual countries. For me, the idea that a country can own the North Pole, incredibly distasteful, "the British commentator Simon Anholt, who is behind one of the world's most cited branding indices, Good Country Index.h would be one of the choices. I'll see.

[Reed John]

Greenland is not enough

The inhabitants of the area Denmark is claiming have taken to the streets in protest.

[Janik]

Greenland is not enough

Reed John wrote: a year ago discarded Prime Minister of Canada a thorough report, which assessed that Canada has no right to the North Pole, and experts were asked to find better scientific evidence.

Lidegaard: Not aggressively
It rejects Lidegaard blank. It is from pure science that Denmark has the right to the huge territory: "This is not an aggressive act. It is an attempt to honestly classify the geological data, "he says.

Hahaha.

I suspect Google translate may have stripped out some subtleties and obfuscations and just left this in pretty straightforward language.

I like the idea of the Canadian Prime Minister saying "This science is no good. Bring me better science, i.e. some that gives me the answer I want!", and the Danish Foreign Minister responding "You mean, like mine [taps report that says it should all be Danish]?"

[Various Artist]

Greenland is not enough

Hahaha, this is so true — I snorted with mirth at "discarded" firstly because the syntax made me think it was a 'discarded Prime Minister' and then, once I twigged the context, because it's so much blunter than the actual politico-speak would be.

Love Reed's take on it too. I was in one of those almost exactly ten years ago, the Newtown Santa Run in mid Wales, which set a Guinness world record at the time for largest gathering of Santas. Something like 4200, if I remember. My photos are inevitably of similar surreality to the one Reed posted.

The idea that any (one) country can stake a claim to the Arctic is stupid, though. Admittedly, I think I'd be happier to see Denmark with it than any of the competing claimants, but that's still a relative thing; it should be everyone's and no-one's, like the South Pole.

[N est à?]

Greenland is not enough

I was under the impression that Greenlandic independence was likely in the near future, which would give Denmark no claim at all on the arctic.

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

Greenland is not enough

it should be everyone's and no-one's, like the South Pole.

Antarctica's carved up between six or seven countries as well, isn't it? Us, Norway, Chile, Argentina, Australia and NZ I think.

[Diable Rouge]

Greenland is not enough

Yes, but under the 1959 Antarctic Treaty, all such claims were placed in formal abeyance. Interestingly, Marie Byrd Land is the only global land territory not formally claimed by any country. And yes, I believe the Greenlanders are targeting independence by 2020.

[Eggchaser]

Greenland is not enough

Janik wrote:

a year ago discarded Prime Minister of Canada a thorough report, which assessed that Canada has no right to the North Pole, and experts were asked to find better scientific evidence.

Lidegaard: Not aggressively
It rejects Lidegaard blank. It is from pure science that Denmark has the right to the huge territory: "This is not an aggressive act. It is an attempt to honestly classify the geological data, "he says.

Hahaha.

I suspect Google translate may have stripped out some subtleties and obfuscations and just left this in pretty straightforward language.

I like the idea of the Canadian Prime Minister saying "This science is no good. Bring me better science, i.e. some that gives me the answer I want!", and the Danish Foreign Minister responding "You mean, like mine [taps report that says it should all be Danish]?"

Given Harper's previous record on disposing of scientific disciplines he doesn't like, it's not too far fetched.

[Reed John]

Greenland is not enough

Hahaha, this is so true — I snorted with mirth at "discarded" firstly because the syntax made me think it was a 'discarded Prime Minister' and then, once I twigged the context, because it's so much blunter than the actual politico-speak would be.

I thought that too, but then remembered that Harper is still PM.

[Wouter D]

Greenland is not enough

Thanks, Reed!

[Wouter D]

Greenland is not enough

Diable Rouge wrote: Interestingly, Marie Byrd Land is the only global land territory not formally claimed by any country.

Bir Tawil would like to have a word.