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    The UK Police Misconduct Thread

    Seeing as we are supposed to be a parochial messageboard, it seems only fair we should think about addressing our own issues before castigating those of others.

    I'll start.

    1. Arrest & imprisonment of patriots trying to prevent the march of the Blackshirts, 4th October, 1936.

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    Orgeave.

    The same police force that lied about Hillsborough, the same cover up tactics, filling notebooks with identical accounts of the miners attacking etc.

    That's why, amidst all the cheering as cop outriders swept up the hills outside Sheffield at the Tour this summer, I was heckling: 'Remember Orgreave! Remember Hillsboro'!

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      Felicity, I guess so wrote: Orgeave.

      The same police force that lied about Hillsborough, the same cover up tactics, filling notebooks with identical accounts of the miners attacking etc.

      That's why, amidst all the cheering as cop outriders swept up the hills outside Sheffield at the Tour this summer, I was heckling: 'Remember Orgreave! Remember Hillsboro'!
      Too close to home for me!

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        I've given up muttering about Hillsborough when visiting Doncaster, Barnsley and the Sheffields, as the fresh faced young coppers were obviously not born when it happened. Although I do like to confuse the same by bringing up Blair Peach.

        But South Yorkshire police did used to be absolute cunts, and made it an ordeal to visit a football ground on their patch.

        At Orgreave the "police" were from all over the country as well as hired thugs from other services, it's more a stain on Thatcher and her government than SYP.

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          More Judicial misconduct than police misconduct. This is not the fifties shitface.

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            "Fifties Shitface"? 1970s post-punk/New wave BNT?

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              When did this become a thing?

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                Their behaviour's usually unacceptable, you wouldn't think they'd need to form a team.

                Arf.

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                  When did it become a thing for BTP to routinely carry assault rifles at railway terminuses?

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                    After July 2005, probably.

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                      When I first came here, is was all ASBO this and ASBO that. What happened to those? Did it taper off? Did it work?

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                        Ginger Yellow wrote: After July 2005, probably.
                        Possibly, but it's something I've only noticed very recently. Last year or so.

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                          WOM wrote: When I first came here, is was all ASBO this and ASBO that. What happened to those? Did it taper off? Did it work?
                          They were replaced by CRIMBOs

                          Bizarre Lw Triangle wrote: When did it become a thing for BTP to routinely carry assault rifles at railway terminuses?
                          When they had enough of the real police taking the piss out of them.

                          Anyway, South Yorkshire Police

                          Orgreave
                          Hillsborough
                          Rotherham sexual abuse cases.
                          Tipping off the media about Cliff Richard's house raid.

                          (I am missing off keeping us in a car park outside Oakwell for an hour in winter)

                          The thing about this is the dates - 1984, 1989, 2000-2014, 2014. This is a police force that just carries on regardless fucking up with no punishment or change. Only the Met have carried on regardless in a similar fashion.

                          Talking of which - the SDS. A Met secret department that made the SWP look like paragons of integrity. 30 years too late, they have finally paid out to a mother that one of their undercover blokes got pregnant.

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                            A Met secret department that made the SWP look like paragons of integrity.
                            I kept silent on here while TonTon fell out very publically with the SWp (tho he and I exchanged frequent PMs at the time and remain friends (on facebook, we've never met).

                            But I'm rather chafing (no- fucking appalled) at the idea 'we' are such a tainted brand that a systematic strategy over 30 years of 'horizontal' infiltration and deliberate manipulation by a specially constituted squad of police liars is somehow 'almost' as bad as the SWP...

                            For instance: I am an elected union rep at department, branch and regional level, previously national conference too- openly affiliated to said loonie-left organisation, have never pretended to be anything else. Nor shagged anyone for influence or information.

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                              Fuck, sorry, FIGS, I got my acronyms wrong. I meant the SPG. Please accept my apologies.

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                                Hahahaha.
                                That's a belter, Bored

                                Socialist Worker, 'im a murderer
                                Said you can't let 'im get much furtherer


                                The SWP local lot used to rip down our punk gig posters. We were quite well disposed towards them until that.

                                RUC, anyone? They were a bundle of laughs.

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                                  Fuck, sorry, FIGS, I got my acronyms wrong. I meant the SPG
                                  Haha!

                                  In the spirit of Calvert's:

                                  An' when we march 'pon Pentonville/
                                  The SPG were dere


                                  They probably were. And the SDS.

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                                    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-30210199

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                                      Partially cleared. I think this links with questions asked on the Mike Brown thread about the Police seemingly being above the law.

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                                        Fully cleared now.

                                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-30411557

                                        So police can beat up autistic people for fun without fear of prosecution.

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                                          Well, technically they were prosecuted. Just not convicted. Its not an unreasonable surmise that the verdicts will make the CPS less likely to bring future such cases to court. As if they were busting a gut to prosecute officers in the first place.

                                          It does feel like a (much more minor) version of the Mike Brown thing, though. Or de Menezes. The Police can justify basically anything they do, however egregious, on the grounds that they thought it was one thing but were mistaken. It doesn't seem to matter how implausible it was for them to make such a mistake, how their observed behaviour contradicts the idea that it even was a mistake, or how serious the consequences were.

                                          All eyes on Bedfordshire Police to see if they will have the courage to sack these men anyway.

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                                            76 people were arrested for violent disorder yesterday for lying down in a shopping centre.

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                                              Not strictly true...

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                                                A shopping centre is technically private property. If people remain there having been asked to leave (and that demand can be made without explanation or a good reason), they are trespassing. Hence why they were requested to move outside and complied with that, as I see further down the article. But then some tried to get back in again, which made them liable for arrest.

                                                If I Ruled The World... owners of quasi-public spaces would have to accept that using their property in this manner brings with it a diminution of their rights. Banning people for political protest and using Trespass to enforce that would definitely be one area.

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                                                  The Police can justify basically anything they do, however egregious, on the grounds that they thought it was one thing but were mistaken. It doesn't seem to matter how implausible it was for them to make such a mistake, how their observed behaviour contradicts the idea that it even was a mistake, or how serious the consequences were.
                                                  How very true.

                                                  I see the Bedforshire copper had a QC defending him. Seems unlikely he'd be able to afford that on a policeman's salary, so can we assume that's funded by the taxpayer?

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