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I'm not saying she's amazingly popular (frankly, I hadn't even heard of her until her name appeared on this thread) but the harmonious picture of race relations and attitudes towards immigration in the Republic that TAB painted is obviously not quite the full story.Last edited by Nocturnal Submission; 04-06-2019, 13:44.
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In 2004, 80% in a Referendum voted to end automatic citizenship for all Irish-born children. Not quite the same issue but it's probably more telling than some gaunch getting 2% in the Euros.
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The broader point is that to date, the country has avoided the voluntary segregation prevalent in Britain and across Europe (which is not to excuse the disgrace that is the direct provision system for asylum seekers), and by and large, new arrivals are playing a full and active role in their communities:
http://twitter.com/cooney_ian/status/1135563131915251713
That's not to dismiss the support for Peter Casey in rural areas, but the political parties have, for once, shown considerable maturity on this issue.
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I would imagine that Bannon and his ilk are trying rather hard to create a "movement" in his ancestral homeland.
I would also note that InfoWars makes money off of stunts like this even if literally no one in Ireland watches. They need "content" to keep the rubes watching so that they can sell them dietary supplements, dick pills, and tat.
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Originally posted by Reginald Christ
Attitudes towards immigration in Ireland would be no different to those in Britain, I'm afraid. It's perhaps less of an issue here at the minute because of the uncomfortable fact that, barring the large influx of Polish people around the time of the Celtic Tiger, Ireland has never had a major influx of refugees or immigrants on the scale that's evident in Britain or Germany, for example. The notion that we're somehow more enlightened or "mature" than British people is nonsense.
Everyone above a certain age has either emigrated themselves for a spell, or their siblings emigrated. There's a much greater familiarity with global migration, particularly among village dwellers who can trace their roots in that village back to the stone age. That's a huge difference. The other thing is that we don't think that net migration in the region of 0.5% of the population is that unusual. The other thing is that the increase in migrants is tied to all those foreign companies setting up here, and huge amounts of money pouring into the country. Though It certainly does help that the four main groups of people moving here though are Irish people coming home, the children of Irish people in the Uk, English people, and Poles (who may as well be the lost 13th tribe of Ireland, for all the bizarre similarities between us)
But the issue largely boils down to resources. Rural Ireland is always worrying that it is dying (which isn't an unreasonable position to hold) however resources are allocated on the basis of numbers here, so most places in Ireland literally do not give two shits where you come from as long as you send your kids to the local primary school, so they get to keep their full complement of teachers. The countryside of the west of Ireland is dotted with closed one and two room schools, which act as tombstones for the era of an extensive local population in these areas. All they really want to do is be able to field a GAA team. That's a really big flashing sign for a lot of Irish communities. There's a lot of people who drive a lot of miles every year in order to ensure that local clubs keep going.
This then goes on to explain the phenomenon of Direct provision. See, the issue here isn't necessarily that you want to do things this way, it's what do you do when you get rid of it. Lets say that they get rid of direct provision tomorrow. You have to provide these people with accommodation. Now imagine a situation where people are angry about the total failure to provide public sector housing, and then for asylum seekers to jump straight to the top of the Queue? That's when you'd see what people had to say about things. The thing is that Irish people and people who moved here aren't in competition in any meaningful sense. The Good people of Ireland have decided that they don't want to spend any money on providing state accommodation, and this is another community that is prepared to pay the price.Last edited by The Awesome Berbaslug!!!; 04-06-2019, 13:41.
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The leader and only elected representative of Renua has left the party:
http://twitter.com/electionlit/status/1138366116949106689
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Originally posted by elguapo4 View PostBoys A and B found guilty, Irish posters will know what I mean, everyone else Google at your own risk, it's really nasty stuff.
I've never understood the morbid fascination that the general public has for murder trials. I can't stomach them. I really wish there had been more restrictions on the reporting.
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It's fuckin disturbing the way the August Media have been just as prurient as the Sunday World/Sun/Indo usual voyeuristic bastards. Court cases shouldn't be News in the same way as when the crime was actually committed. No need for a running commentary for ghouls.
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Originally posted by Lang Spoon View PostI'd say trying them as adults was a DPP decision, no doubt due to the Public Outrage if it was done in a children's court behind closed doors (and the defendants then not having criminal records).
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View PostBut surely there is some discretion involved in charging those crimes, no?
Someone’s going to have to be the youngest convicted murderers in the history of the Irish state, and these two seem as good candidates as any.
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https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crim...29570?mode=amp
the article by the way. Very long read and thrown up hastily after the verdict, hence the odd misspelling or weird syntax, but very comprehensive.
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On a happier note, today is the 25th anniversary of John Sheridan hitting the crossbar against Italy.
What a surreal experience that was in the VIP seats we lucked into.Last edited by ursus arctos; 19-06-2019, 02:45.
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