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    So the Irish Govt gets some lovely money?

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      Originally posted by anton pulisov View Post

      To have an Irish passport, you must be an Irish citizen. Naturalisation is the process of acquiring citizenship. Why would people who are already Irish citizens apply for naturalisation?
      They would have Irish heritage, and the British holders can vote by virtue of bilateral agreements, but a passport wouldn't automatically make them Irish citizens - otherwise, millions of Americans with Irish grandparents would claim citizenship.

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        Article 9.2 of the Constitution - Irish citizen defined as someone born on the island of Ireland, to one parent who is an Irish citizen.

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          That is not the only route to citizenship though. Anyone with an Irish grandparent or parent just has to register on the Foreign Births Register to be a citizen if born abroad.

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            Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post

            They would have Irish heritage, and the British holders can vote by virtue of bilateral agreements, but a passport wouldn't automatically make them Irish citizens - otherwise, millions of Americans with Irish grandparents would claim citizenship.
            I really don't follow DR. They are entitled to Irish passports as they meet the requirement of Irish citizenry, by virtue of their parents or grandparents. No matter if they are American or British born.

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              Non citizens don't get passports.

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                I'm pretty sure there are no longer "millions of Americans" with Irish grandparents.

                It works like this DR:

                https://www.citizensinformation.ie/e...r_descent.html
                Last edited by anton pulisov; 23-05-2019, 22:04.

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                  http://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1132389904338640896

                  If Labour, Greens and the Soc Dems formed an electoral alliance, they could make a real impact, but personality clashes are the problem there.

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                    Jaysus, I don't know if the Maria Bailey case belongs on this thread or the WTF thread.

                    It came out shortly before the local elections that the Fine Gael TD for dunlaoighre rathdown was suing a hotel for 60K after falling off a swing in their bar. (I know, I know) anyway, it's all gone horribly wrong, and her surname may become a political verb like poor old Captain Boycott.

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                      Quite enjoying Clare Daly beating out the Andrew Tubridy Alliance for the final seat.

                      Although, Barry Andrews might get in yet if Brexit happens and Ireland gets some more seats in the Euro Parliament.

                      So expect RTE to go full on Brexit.

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                        Literally the closest possible electoral tussle still live in Bantry, where a candidate for the Social Democrats lost to an independent by ONE vote, then took the lead by the same margin after a recount, and now teams of officials have been analysing votes for the last 24 hours.

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                          I'm still laughing like a drain at Dynasty FF losing out in Dublin

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                            Daly might talk Linus shite on Syria but she's a fuckload more incisive and effective that that 1916 aristocrat.

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                              Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
                              I'm still laughing like a drain at Dynasty FF losing out in Dublin
                              They didn't lose out. He'll be an mep in a couple of months.

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                                Yeah, October or till the next postponement if there is one (say if an election or ref miraculously happens). Still funny to see the stiff fuckin wank pipped for now but.
                                Last edited by Lang Spoon; 28-05-2019, 22:19.

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                                  The Ireland South count might still be going on then.

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                                    Do you people need some help on how to finish an STV count in one day?

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                                      After being about to miss out on election in Midlands North West, Peter Casey now pledges to run for the Dáil - perhaps the scariest aspect is that Donegal would elect him.

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                                        Fucking hell but there's a lot of right-wing Irish nutjobs poking their heads above the parapets on social media now. Their ring leader seems to be the country's answer to Hatie Katie, Gemma O'Doherty, but there's seemingly a nasty group of Pepe-the-Frog-avatar anti-Islamic, anti-immigrant trolls going on about the supposed extermination of the native Irish and their culture and attacking people online.

                                        Is this a thing that is rearing its head on other media or in public?

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                                          Isn't it the "domestic" branch of the "the Irish were slaves, too" brigade from these shores that we've mentioned episodically?

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                                            Originally posted by Kevin S View Post
                                            Their ring leader seems to be the country's answer to Hatie Katie, Gemma O'Doherty
                                            G'OD is a bit different to Katie Hopkins. Katie Hopkins is a badly damaged cynic, robotically pressing buttons for attention and money. GO'D has become untethered from reality. She is lost to us. One of the thing that has shielded us to a certain degree from the likes of Katie Hopkins is that a lot of the space that the likes of KH occupies is taken up here by people with real problems.

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                                              Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post

                                              G'OD is a bit different to Katie Hopkins. Katie Hopkins is a badly damaged cynic, robotically pressing buttons for attention and money. GO'D has become untethered from reality. She is lost to us. One of the thing that has shielded us to a certain degree from the likes of Katie Hopkins is that a lot of the space that the likes of KH occupies is taken up here by people with real problems.
                                              She certainly appears to be copying KH's lucrative business model.

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                                                Originally posted by Kevin S View Post
                                                Fucking hell but there's a lot of right-wing Irish nutjobs poking their heads above the parapets on social media now. Their ring leader seems to be the country's answer to Hatie Katie, Gemma O'Doherty, but there's seemingly a nasty group of Pepe-the-Frog-avatar anti-Islamic, anti-immigrant trolls going on about the supposed extermination of the native Irish and their culture and attacking people online.

                                                Is this a thing that is rearing its head on other media or in public?
                                                The reaction was highly heartening, however - the Longford woman who confronted O'Doherty for publishing pictures of her son's class without her permission was universally praised, and people went out of their way to buy produce at an organic food shop that she critiqued purely for being owned by an Iraqi national.​​​​​

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                                                  The video of her going around that Iraqi fella's shop was a great representation of the whole immigration issue. An immigrant warm and welcoming, going out of his way to be kind and nice while integrating into the community, only to be confronted by some shouty bellend spouting made-up shite and holding the immigrant to a nebulous set of values they don't even adhere to themselves.

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                                                    She certainly appears to be copying KH's lucrative business model.

                                                    There's no money to be made in spouting bollocks about chemtrails and all the other stuff you saw last night on Info wars here. She used to be a journalist at one point. Now she makes really surreal youtube videos.

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