Nah, he's not doing that.
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Nah, F*ck Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, in any way possible.
Horrible midget racist cokehead that he is.
Maximum sentence is two years, due to be announced next Tuesday, presumably with time allowance given for last year...
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I understand and respect your point of view.
However, I think it's fair to say that there are different reasons for using 'alternate names'. For a transgendered person, it's probably so that their outward identity aligns more closely with their inward identity. I happily support that. For a right-wing racist - who has gone by the names Andrew McMaster, Paul Harris, Wayne King, Stephen Lennon and Tommy Robinson - it's probably to distance themselves from their actions through obfuscation and anonymity. Why would I be willingly complicit in supporting that?
So fuck Stephen Yaxley-Lennon.
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Yes, that was odd, wasn't it. It didn't last very long.
The name thing is very odd. Apart from anything else, as WOM alluded to, his passport has the name Paul Harris. But why, if you were choosing a pseudonym to do your dirty deeds under, would you pick the name of a famous local hoolie? For all sorts of reasons that's the worst possible choice!
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He's not that sharp.
That and enables the Walter Mitty aspect of his 'persona'.
https://twitter.com/SeemaChandwani/status/1147264586825043968?s=19
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Originally posted by Nocturnal Submission View PostYes, that was odd, wasn't it. It didn't last very long.
The name thing is very odd. Apart from anything else, as WOM alluded to, his passport has the name Paul Harris. But why, if you were choosing a pseudonym to do your dirty deeds under, would you pick the name of a famous local hoolie? For all sorts of reasons that's the worst possible choice!
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Originally posted by WOM View PostI understand and respect your point of view.
However, I think it's fair to say that there are different reasons for using 'alternate names'. For a transgender person, it's probably so that their outward identity aligns more closely with their inward identity. I happily support that. For a right-wing racist - who has gone by the names Andrew McMaster, Paul Harris, Wayne King, Stephen Lennon and Tommy Robinson - it's probably to distance themselves from their actions through obfuscation and anonymity. Why would I be willingly complicit in supporting that?
So fuck Stephen Yaxley-Lennon.
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If people wish to self-identify behind that name, fine.
If it's an entertainer using a name with which to identify their act, fine
But if it's a politician or activist wanting to use the name to obfuscate and hide their real identity.
Not a hope in hell.
Fuck 'em.
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Originally posted by WOM View PostI think you're saying that we should call people what they wish to be called. Is that close?
I'm saying that doing all that "real name" stuff that people are doing strikes me as a bad idea while we are faced by people using the same words, loudly, to hurt trans people, and so we shouldn't do it.
Now, you might disagree with that in one of two ways. You might think "I don't think there is any such consequence, these things are entirely separate in everyone's minds". Or you might think "well there could be a consequence, but calling out SYL/TR is more important."
I can't think of another way of disagreeing, but of course there could be one. But given those two, which is it?
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Tommy robinson is a nickname though isn't it? The trans thing is clearly different, because a) the person has taken a name that they feel aligns more accurately with their gender, b) if they can, they frequently legally change their name, if possible. Steven Yaxley lennon could legally change his name to Tommy Robinson with no real problem, but hasn't because it's just a nickname.
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I don't get what's hard to follow in what I've said, but best left now I reckon.Last edited by DCI Harry Batt; 07-07-2019, 17:49.
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View PostTommy robinson is a nickname though isn't it? The trans thing is clearly different, because a) the person has taken a name that they feel aligns more accurately with their gender, b) if they can, they frequently legally change their name, if possible. Steven Yaxley lennon could legally change his name to Tommy Robinson with no real problem, but hasn't because it's just a nickname.
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