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    Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
    The number of these guys in the military and law enforcement is a major problem. Given the Administration's general opinion of people with such views, the DOJ must have been seriously worried about him.
    It's not really a surprise. The FBI have had concerns on extremist groups for a while but most people have been ignoring their concerns as these nutters were only killing black people.
    https://theintercept.com/2018/11/05/...ite-supremacy/
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-a...09-p4yzs5.html

    We have seen numerous pictures of law enforcement and government agents posing with the WP handsign. Hopefully this will prompt them to do something about it.

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      Oh dear.

      How sad

      What a pity
      Never mind

      https://www.wfla.com/news/gun-slips-...als/1819927278

      Bloke shoots himself in the bollocks.

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        What you gonna do, shoot me?

        https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1104042339314659328

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          Good stuff. It's time to get angry as fuck in the face of the likes of Mr fuckin Hunter and pals. HorrIble fat faced softly spoken beardo cunt.

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            Potentially massive if it survives appeals

            https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1106223862281318400?s=19

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              Because that's a state supreme court, can the fed supremes overturn it?

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                Shooting at a mosque in Christchurch, NZ. No details about shooter or casualties yet. Will resist instant assumptions, but regardless - very disturbing.

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                  I very much hope that this isn't as horrific as it is beginning to sound, but the chances don't look good.

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                    Originally posted by tee rex View Post
                    Shooting at a mosque in Christchurch, NZ. No details about shooter or casualties yet. Will resist instant assumptions, but regardless - very disturbing.
                    Reports indicate instant assumptions are likely correct. The local media are reporting a 'European' shooter and there are rumours he hopped over from Australia. None of that has been 100% confirmed, but it looks like it is absolutely conforming to type.

                    The inevitable banal, predictable online 'manifestos' and live streaming the shooting. Words fail.

                    I suppose it won't be "Too soon" for the pro-gun fanatics who will point at this and say, "If only there had been someone with a gun ..."
                    Last edited by Lurgee; 15-03-2019, 03:01.

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                      [URL]https://twitter.com/danbrettig/status/1106400734222798848?s=21[/URL]

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                        Yes, he put everything online. And so the links spread like a virus.

                        It's all just too shitty for words.

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                          Wonder if he was a fan of these guys, who were banging their race-baiting hate drum in Auckland last year?

                          Police are still looking for at least one more shooter. I suspect there must be a local nutjob involved. Christchurch has always had a higher than average occurrence of racist arseholes.

                          Is it not well past time we stopped pretending these hatemongers were part of any civilised discourse?

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                            Until now, the one tiny nod of acknowledgement that I could ever give to American 2nd amendment fetishists was when they responded: "do what you want in your country, this is ours". And yes, it's true, I don't have a say in USA gun laws, and obviously I shouldn't. So - point conceded.

                            Until now, because it turns out that a huge army of NRAzis are all over the latest announcement by the NZ government, telling us exactly what Jacinda's commies are doing wrong. And we should listen, dammit!

                            But absence of self-awareness goes with the territory, I suppose. The "good guy with a gun" apparently now includes arming Muslims in mosques. Let's look forward to Trump demanding that.

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                              Well, in the last 24 hours I've had a tiny glimpse into the USA "gun debate" (spoiler: they don't debate). And I can only marvel at the patience and courage and sheer dedication of those who keep campaigning for change in that country, year after year, abuse after attack from you-know-who ... the soulless ones, with the glazed eyes of utter intransigence. A day has been exhausting enough - and that's in circumstances where the victory (in NZ) is assured already, and in an obscure overseas jurisdiction that nobody at the NRA cared about a week ago.

                              What it's like for survivors of Parkland and Sandy Hook and the rest, I can't begin to imagine. Deepest respect to them all.

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                                Yup

                                But it is too important an issue for us to stop.

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                                  It will require campaign finance and gerrymandering reform, I assume. We're trapped in minority rule right now.

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                                    [QUOTE=tee rex;n2129407]Until now, the one tiny nod of acknowledgement that I could ever give to American 2nd amendment fetishists was when they responded: "do what you want in your country, this is ours". And yes, it's true, I don't have a say in USA gun laws, and obviously I shouldn't. So - point conceded.

                                    /QUOTE]

                                    No say, conceded, but an opinion yes, surely. Though I suppose the issue is how much and when and indeed how anyone should intervene in any way in the affairs of a nation not their own.

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                                      Well, non-US citizens cannot vote here, nor can they donate to campaigns for elective office.

                                      They can, however, contribute to organisations that advocate for gun control, and, more importantly, can work to continue to improve their own countries' gun laws. What New Zealand has done and is doing since the atrocity has not gone without notice here. Needless to say, it will not change the minds of the zealots, but the zealots are increasingly isolated.

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                                        Indiana Teachers Say They Were Mock Executed With a Pellet Gun During a School-Shooter Drill

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                                          [URL]https://twitter.com/miamiherald/status/1109832695998230534?s=21[/URL]

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                                            Originally posted by tee rex View Post
                                            Until now, the one tiny nod of acknowledgement that I could ever give to American 2nd amendment fetishists was when they responded: "do what you want in your country, this is ours". And yes, it's true, I don't have a say in USA gun laws, and obviously I shouldn't. So - point conceded.

                                            Until now, because it turns out that a huge army of NRAzis are all over the latest announcement by the NZ government, telling us exactly what Jacinda's commies are doing wrong. And we should listen, dammit!

                                            But absence of self-awareness goes with the territory, I suppose. The "good guy with a gun" apparently now includes arming Muslims in mosques. Let's look forward to Trump demanding that.
                                            As Christchurch demonstrated, you don't need a gun, just an eftpos machine.

                                            My brother-in-law and father-in-law have both been regurgitating what sound suspiciously like rightwing ideas. B-in-L likes his target shooting and re-posted some pro-gun screed about there being a lack of consultation about the semi-auto ban, which is essentially repeating the NRA / every US politician ever post school shooting mantra that it is 'too soon' to discuss gun control, and only works if you pretend the 2017 review never happened. More worryingly, both B-in-L and F-in-L have repeated / commented positively on some raving about 'Why is it Muslims who are getting all the attention and sympathy, there are other victims of racism.' Which seems a pretty obvious 'turn-the-victims-against-each-other' ploy to me.

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                                              If they start talking about how the Irish were slaves, it may be time for an intervention.

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                                                [URL]https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1110201722813718529?s=21[/URL]

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                                                  [URL]https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1110491467313750016?s=21[/URL]

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                                                    [URL]https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1110689814838501376?s=21[/URL]

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