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    FFS. This thread is soon going to have to be a MBM.

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      https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1060563116080095234?s=21/

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        This fucking country

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          There were a number of people who were there last night AND at the Las Vegas shooting.

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            Originally posted by Incandenza View Post
            This fucking country
            Seriously.

            I learned last night that as of this week, four male members of my high school's class of 2015 (about 600 total, I think) have killed themselves. And this is a relatively affluent and progressive area.

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              Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View Post
              Seriously.

              I learned last night that as of this week, four male members of my high school's class of 2015 (about 600 total, I think) have killed themselves. And this is a relatively affluent and progressive area.
              I'm sorry, HP.

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                Thanks. I didn't know any of these young men directly, but I know people who know them.

                It's related to the gun issue. Of course, a lot fewer people - especially boys - would be able to kill themselves if guns were harder to access. But also because both suicides and mass shootings point to a level of alienation and loneliness that doesn't seem to be getting better, especially among boys. And sadly, the loudest voices responding to this crisis are advising us to just double-down on toxic masculinity and old failed bullshit narratives about "alphas" and "betas" and blaming feminism or diversity or the lack of combat sports in gym class and all that shit. Its infuriating.

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                  Very true. About the only thing Trump's said that I agree with, is how difficult it is for young men these days (not for the reasons he claims of course.)

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                    I remember reading a statistic that something like a quarter of a million Americans have experienced a school shooting. When someone you know even at second hand dies violently or at their own hand it's very shocking. The mixture of fear, rage, and feelings of failure is toxic.

                    - and as James Baldwin wrote in The Fire Next Time "I imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain.Ē


                    is this new?


                    https://twitter.com/Bucks/status/1061353509759504384

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                      A few NHL teams did something like that this week too.

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                        In Mad magazine, a homage to Edward Gorey's 1963 The Gashlycrumb Tinies by writer Matt Cohen and artist Marc Palm.

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                          This is powerful stuff...seeing my name in that list freaked me out..

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                            That's a pastiche of this:

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                              NRA IN A BIT OF TROUBLE

                              https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1072219189258145792

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                                [URL]https://twitter.com/mjs_dc/status/1088192523749810176?s=21[/URL]

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                                  Was that the Florida shooting urs?

                                  (I still can't see embedded tweets.)

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                                    Yes.

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                                      Sebring is one of the most beautiful places I have ever visited. I've driven past that site several times as it's on the main road (US 27) through the lakes of central Florida. We take the road if going from LaBelle to Orlando avoiding the I75+I4 route.

                                      It subjectively makes the atrocity feel even more grotesque.

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                                        This happened about a mile and a half from my house. Guy goes into a motel bar with his ex-girlfriend. Theyíre at the bar for a little while. Nothing amiss.

                                        Next thing anyone can say for certain, he shoots her with a gun he *legally* is allowed to carry. Then he shoots and, ultimately, kills two men from Ohio who are in town for a horse auction. The shooter runs out and drives away. Crashes about half a mile away. Breaks into a random house. Kills a nice old guy just minding his own business in his own house. Kills himself as the old guyís wife hides and calls 911. The NRAís mythical ďgood guy with a gunĒ failed to show.

                                        http://www.statecollege.com/news/loc...tails,1479141/

                                        Itís not even really that shocking. We donít have much violence around here, but this is America and gun-ownership is relatively high around here. Something like this was a statistical inevitability.

                                        (Then again, I canít recall ever even reading about a case like this - both a wife/girlfriend/ex AND random strangers are shot. Usually itís one or the other.)

                                        A few more details of the shooter have emerged. He didnít have a criminal record as such, but later digging shows he made a plea deal a few years ago to resolve a DUI in Kentucky during his three years in the Army. All of that raises some obvious questions.

                                        Clearly he was somebody who should not have owned a gun, but this is America. As is typical with these cases, everyone who knew him is totally shocked and didnít see this coming.

                                        An unspeakable tragedy. The cops did everything they could - which isnít much, as it turns out. And yet a lot of the press thinks the big story here is that a few students posted on Twitter that they were mad they didnít get a warning text from the university about it. Even though it was over by the time anyone could have done that and this was off-campus in a part of town with few students and it was all over Twitter and the news statewide.

                                        I guess some people just always think itís about them.



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                                          Some encouraging signs, I suppose:

                                          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...trol-victories

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                                            If only there was some way to stop this.

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                                              Good news: they caught him

                                              bad news : look what he did for a living

                                              [URL]https://twitter.com/ositanwanevu/status/1098332368971145217?s=21[/URL]

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                                                The number of these guys in the military and law enforcement is a major problem. Given the Administration's general opinion of people with such views, the DOJ must have been seriously worried about him.

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