Thatcher Cosplay - Can't Truss It

[ad hoc]

Yes, you were "quite careful not to say that"

[Flynnie]

I haven't seen an Irishman this passionate about finding reds under the bed since Joe McCarthy.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

Well yes. And the flip side of that is I didn't wind up saying it.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

I haven't seen an Irishman this passionate about finding reds under the bed since Joe McCarthy.

erm, are the modern Tory party 'reds under the bed'?

[Snake Plissken]

erm, are the modern Tory party 'reds under the bed'?

According to Liz and the rest of her merry band of lunatics, yes.

[Sean of the Shed]

There's a significant difference between actual CND and Militant and what the media of that day were telling you about them. See also Labour and antisemitism.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

Hahaha. I've got this visual image of Jacob rees mogg standing up to lead the 1922 committee in a rousing rendition of "The Internationale"

[DCI Harry Batt]

There is some wild nonsense thrown around here isn't there. "On the fringes of CND" as a slur. For fucks sake. Get a grip

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

I love when tonton decides to comment on things that he mostly can't see.

[sw2borshch]

We're not having another religion thread are we?

[Nefertiti2]

He was a posh lad who on the fringes of militant and cnd. He was reacting to his parents, and so was his daughter. It's hard to say which of them had worse ideas, and was more amenable to Russian influence

Wash your mouth out before you go round insinuating people are spies.

[Nefertiti2]

I knew the far right is getting more influential in Ireland these days - I didn’t realise that Berbaslig now mainstreams the Daily Mail.

just need him to post some anti Meghan Markle stuff

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

We're not having another religion thread are we?

It does rather look like it. I mean I'm not sure what to make of net's last two posts.

[Nefertiti2]

It does rather look like it. I mean I'm not sure what to make of net's last two posts.

you seem to be oushing a far right conspiracy theory.

You are singularly ill informed about John Truss being "posh" by the way (just as you are about many things in the UK. )

He studied maths at Kings College Canbridge it's true but that was in the 60's. he was a grammar school boy born in Watford and studied at Watford Grammar School- still you can't resist a Daily Mail smear.

And hinting strongly that people opposed to nuclear weapons are or Soviet Sympathisers is a cunt's trick.

[Nefertiti2]

erm, are the modern Tory party 'reds under the bed'?

Russia is capitalist.

[E10 Rifle]

What does being "on the fringes of CND" mean? That he was a member of an above-board mass campaigning organisation with hundreds of thousands of members? Or was he not quite a member because this well-known mass membership organisation was too shady to be openly part of?

[Balderdasha]

The definition of posh is quite elastic. I was considered posh at my primary and middle school because we lived in a private detached house, not a council house on one of the estates, and we did things like sing in choirs and learn to play the piano. But my grandparents on one side grew up in the slums of Norwich and the other side were coal miners / mill workers.

Then I won a partial scholarship to a girls' private school in Cambridge and started mingling with people who I thought were really posh. People whose parents were professors and architects, who had inherited houses and went on skiing holidays. People who invited me to family parties where you'd bump into the ex-governor of Bermuda, Beyonce's lawyer and the world expert on moss. They considered me the antithesis of posh. For many of my friends from that era, I am their most working class friend.

And then I went to Cambridge university where I met really, really posh people, the children of landed gentry, who'd been to private boarding schools and had aristocratic surnames and horses, who still only socialise and marry among similar classes. I encountered private members' clubs who only invite people if they appear in Burke's peerage. I have a friend from this time who rings me up crying sometimes because she thinks she's failed by only housing her children in a £1.5 million house and not being able to afford a full-time nanny because all of her other friends are wildly richer than her.

I'm not sure if there's a level of posh above the English aristocracy. There are definitely people who are richer, but probably not posher. Though I've still only hung out with lower level aristocracy, the closest I've come to the royal family is a friend who used to date Sam Parker-Bowles and an ex-boss who was friends with Prince Charles (as he was then).

[S. aureus]

You clearly moved in different circles at Cambridge to the ones that I did.

[Balderdasha]

Oh, I met plenty of more grounded people from more average backgrounds as well, and they tend to be the ones I've stayed in more close contact with. But there were definitely plenty of posh people.

[Evariste Euler Gauss]

You clearly moved in different circles at Cambridge to the ones that I did.

Me too. I mean, I occasionally heard tell of the super-poshos,but they were an absolutely tiny proportion of the overall student body and, no doubt precisely because they are so cliquey, not particularly visible in the social life of the average Cambridge undergraduate. Well, apart from Prince Edward I suppose, who is standing immediately diagonally behind me on my college graduation photo from 1986. I bumped into him once, at cafeteria lunch, got him to pass me the salt while his bodyguard glowered at me.

[Balderdasha]

The main source of the posh people was via a friend who was doing the land economy course. It seems to mainly be a course for people who want to learn how to manage their family's estate.

[Balderdasha]

Liz Truss "I don't want to be PM again" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64543478

I would also like to announce that I don't want to date Brad Pitt or walk on Mars.

[Nefertiti2]

, apart from Prince Edward I suppose, who is standing immediately diagonally behind me on my college graduation photo from 1986.

Kitty corner is the phrase, I believe.

[Janik]

The only member of the landed gentry I’ve ever been personally acquainted with* seemed anything but posh. Big fella, into Ju Jitsu, worked as a bouncer on the door of the Student Union. It really didn’t square when I found out he was the second son of a Baron and his passport had him as The Honourable etc. Maybe it was notable of his mindset that he went to Nottingham to do his degree rather than Oxbridge.

* - at least, that I know of. Because if it hadn’t somehow come up in conversation I could have know this guy for three years and never had an inkling about it. There could be others I’ve worked with who were equally unstereotypical so flew under my radar.

[ursus arctos]

In my (limited) experience, aristos can be even weirder in countries (say Germany and Italy) that have officially abolished titles of nobility.

Not to mention the kind of nonsense one can encounter among pretenders and the likes of White Russians (one prominent White Russian organisation happens to own the townhouse next to us).