Water Under The Menai Bridge

[Discordant Resonance]

We've had the North Channel tunnel proposal in recent years, and the latest Johnson infrastructural wheeze to get an airing is the Irish Sea interconnector, with a tunnel that would connect Dublin to Holyhead. Not exactly practical, though the thought of driving overland from Ireland all the way through to France is intriguing.

[S. aureus]

Would a tunnel really be overland?

[Discordant Resonance]

Well, in the Eurotunnel sense, at any rate.

[Kowalski]

The tunnel is part of the infrastructure package at the heart of UK & Ireland's joint bid for the 2046 World Cup. All host cites will be connected by HS3, and that includes Llandudno with its jaw-dropping stadium within the hollowed out Great Orme. To say "I'm excited" would be an understatement.

[elguapo4]

Pointless shite.

[Walt Flanagans Dog]

According to the newspaper, however, the tunnel scheme is regarded as “batshit” by several of Johnson’s senior aides

[WOM]

I just looked up the price of the Dublin-Holyhead ferry. Holy hell! I thought it was something so commonplace that it would be 100 pounds or so. It's well over 400. Eesh.

[Duncan Gardner]

pre lockdown I regularly travelled to Ireland by ferry, via Wales as above and also via Stranraer (Scotland) and Liverpool. Price was about £50 each way as a foot passenger

[ursus arctos]

WOM doesn't visit his mailbox on foot

[Sporting]

I just looked up the price of the Dublin-Holyhead ferry. Holy hell! I thought it was something so commonplace that it would be 100 pounds or so. It's well over 400. Eesh.

I have the feeling that ferry and indeed rail links are often vastly overpriced and flights correspondingly on the cheap side.

[WOM]

Oh, okay. Was that the car price I saw? Do you pay more for additional passengers?

[elguapo4]

The ferry companies advertise heavily over here, especially on the routes to France " take a car and four passengers for only x euros " so there's always deals.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

pre lockdown I regularly travelled to Ireland by ferry, via Wales as above and also via Stranraer (Scotland) and Liverpool. Price was about £50 each way as a foot passenger

five or six years ago it was about a hundred quid for a return sail rail, which is a ferry over and back, and essentially unlimited travel on the UK rail network, through the simple expedient of waving your sheaf of ticket paper at someone who doesn't want to look at it/doesn't understand it.

[ursus arctos]

It's dynamic pricing, so very hard to come up with a set rate, but I'm not get anything above the low 200s for a return with auto and three people in June

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

I just looked up the price of the Dublin-Holyhead ferry. Holy hell! I thought it was something so commonplace that it would be 100 pounds or so. It's well over 400. Eesh.

That's presumably with a car? Was about £30 with my train ticket last time i did it

[Big Boobs and FIRE!]

five or six years ago it was about a hundred quid for a return sail rail, which is a ferry over and back, and essentially unlimited travel on the UK rail network, through the simple expedient of waving your sheaf of ticket paper at someone who doesn't want to look at it/doesn't understand it.

For those in the know, ie trainspotters, a rail sail has long been the cheapest way of doing long distance UK rail travel. Eg, if you want to go from Scotland to Devon, you get Holyhead rail sail tickets for either end, but never actually do the Birmingham-Holyhead-Ireland part.

[Kowalski]

You used to be able to get a pre-booked return ticket from a north Wales station to a Dart station in the middle of Dublin (obviously including the ferry in the middle) for 38 quid. It was great to think that an international city was only 3-4 hours from my front room.

For the first few trips it was the HSS on the Holyhead-Dún Laoghaire route but the last time I went in 2010 it was the HSS on the way out and the Dublin-Holyhead normal ferry on the way back. The return journey was about twice as long.

[Snake Plissken]

99 minutes on the HSS, 3 hours 10 on the normal ferry.

Our back and forth was usually about 210 with the car return. The first class upgrade at 18pp each way was usually worth it, especially on the new James Joyce just for the unlimited soft drinks and food and space to stretch out.

[Guy Profumo]

According to the newspaper, however, the tunnel scheme is regarded as “batshit” by several of Johnson’s senior aides

Will it be adorned by force-grown hydroponic gardens lit by "Cannabis" lamps