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    I see that John Le Carre was so pissed off with Brexit that he obtained Irish citizenship before he died.

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      Barnier's detailed memoir to come out on 6 May in France

      https://twitter.com/annerovan/status/1378425246626250754

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        Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
        Barnier's detailed memoir to come out on 6 May in France

        https://twitter.com/annerovan/status/1378425246626250754
        The name says it all...(I was reminded of the Renoir movie mind)

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          Moi aussi

          And surely a significant element in Barnier's choice

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            Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post
            More "let's laugh at the fools who don't think things through"


            https://twitter.com/MarinaNigrelli/status/1377717983309627397?s=19
            They can all stay, provided they were in the country before 31 December, but they’re gonna have to actually register and pay tax and stop fucking off to England to freeload on the NHS. Boo hoo.

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                https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1379905622972452867?s=19

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                  Excuse my ignorance but what is the location?

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                    I assume its between the falls Road and the Shankill road

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                      At a time when cool heads and leadership are required, NI gets:

                      https://twitter.com/DUPleader/status/1379885970103877634

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                        My friend who is originally from Carrick told me about a 20 year old dickhead working in her office (in Wales) who voted Brexit and told her it wouldn't affect things on Northern Ireland. "And if there was any trouble the army could help out." When he was told that had been, um, problematic previously, he was genuinely mystified. He'd never heard of the Troubles.

                        (I'm not saying that all 20 year olds are ignorant. But that one was.)

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                          Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post
                          Would it be harsh to say this is likely irrelevant to most people who voted Brexit? Because they're either too old or, y'know, not likely to be in the market for studying opportunities.

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                            A bit. Many of them will have kids or grandkids entering post-secondary eduction.

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                              Though aggressive indifference to their plight (or at least a belief that they can help fund those close to them while denying all state assistance to the rest of that age cohort) is a major animating force in contemporary politics on both sides of the pond

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                                Agreed, certainly with the parenthetical bit. And while I can't explicitly deny the indifference you mention, I never hear it expressed among my cohort, even among the more conservative members. I wonder just how real it is, or does just provide an excuse for defunding education.

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                                  I think that most of them are not at all comfortable looking at the issue directly, but instead see massive generational inequality as being a necessary side effect of the imperative of protecting (and enhancing) their existing privilege (including the privilege of assisting those younger people they hold dear (but only those people)).

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                                    I really have no idea. However I accept that childless individuals, or those whose own children are childless, may feel that way. But I have a hard time understanding grandparents who wouldn't want the best available education for their grandchildren. Obviously some can help with that themselves, but I'm not sure how many. I know we'd find it hard financing three post-secondary careers, and we're by no means wanting.

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                                      One reason why I am happy that our son has a German passport and plans to study in Germany.

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                                        Brexit supporting grandparents did so for their grandkids, to give them the same opportunities they had. Obviously they never saw Erasmus and FoM as opportunities, just dangers...

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                                          My take is that many grandparents who voted for Brexit expressly ignored their children and grandchildren's feelings on the matter. Because they were older and knew better.

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                                            https://twitter.com/t0nyyates/status/1380068339398008832?s=20

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                                              The church across the street says it all really.

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                                                Could double-up with the WTF thread:

                                                https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1380264535093878796

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                                                  https://twitter.com/jkbloodtreasure/status/1380289212738646017?s=209

                                                  thanks Ursus
                                                  Last edited by Nefertiti2; 09-04-2021, 07:06.

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                                                    DR's has been deleted (and Nef's has a format error), but DR's note works equally well for the original version of this

                                                    https://twitter.com/perthshiremags/status/1380266930968408070

                                                    https://twitter.com/kevdoyle_indo/status/1380285865621123077

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