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  • treibeis
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    Originally posted by Stumpy Pepys View Post
    While simultaneously avoiding the beer belly.
    I avoid that by not drinking beer.

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  • Balderdasha
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    Weight loss continues to be the only positive of my current predicament. Last time I weighed myself I was down to 62.8kg, or 13kg less than my peak. I have no appetite and am struggling to get myself to eat at every mealtime. My BMI is still in the overweight category so I'm not starving though.

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  • Nocturnal Submission
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    Originally posted by Nocturnal Submission View Post
    After remaining stable for over a year, not moving out of a range of about 4lbs or so, my weight has gone up in the last few weeks, for which I blame the poor weather and the building work affecting my ability to go for walks and fart around in the garden, increased socialising as the virus restrictions have lifted and Euro 2020.

    At the last weigh-in on Wednesday I was 12-9, so I've told myself that I'm going to aim to get under 12st, which I haven't been at for goodness knows how long. Anyway, 9lbs to lose and I'm putting it on the record on OTF, as I find it really helps my motivation and resolve.

    Progress reports to follow.

    I posted this on 9th July and feel duty bound to provide a progress report, as I said I would.

    No progress.

    I mean, I'm under 12-9 but not by much. The house work really buggered up my exercise regimen, if you can call it that, and the increased socialising has continued to occasionally result in over-indulgence.

    So, more walking, gardening, time on the exercise cycle and maybe even the odd trip to the swimming pool at the same time as avoiding evening snacks and practising a little more self-restraint when I'm eating and/or drinking with friends. I mean, I think it's unlikely to happen, but self-deception is incredibly important on occasions such as this!
    Last edited by Nocturnal Submission; 17-11-2021, 16:58.

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  • Janik
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    Originally posted by Sporting View Post

    I'm the last person to talk since I meticulously track and record many aspects of my life but how long before the relentless weighing etc gets in the way of actually enjoying life?
    I’ve been off OTF for most of the week up until yesterday, so apologies for the delayed response... which is I suspect this is incredibly personality specific. For some people recording weight at all would impact. For those like me it has absolutely no bearing on whether I enjoy life. Or rather, I actively enjoy the process of collecting data on whatever - my weight is just another subject for study. But then the best description of my job (or at least a very significant chunk of it) would be Metrologist so I accept I might be particularly atypical here.

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  • San Bernardhinault
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    We started again on a more controlled diet a few weeks ago. While I said up the page that I think weight is a very coarse metric, it is not useless. But the thing I've noticed most this time is that while a couple of kgs have fallen off, mostly my brain has felt sharper as I've been consuming less processed sugar. Normally at this point in a diet I am desperately craving sugary sweet treats. But I just am not this time. I'm still craving carbs and fat - bread, pasta, butter, melty cheese - as always, because they've always been my favourite thing and whatever anyone says, cauliflower is not a good alternative.

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  • Balderdasha
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    Down to 10 stone 5 pounds or 65.8kg today meaning I've lost exactly 10kg in total or a Canada lynx. Husband is 13.5kg down. In total our 23.5kg loss is equivalent to a mandrill.

    The main change in terms of recent weight loss is that I feel nauseous in the morning and can't eat a full breakfast so I'm just eating a few almonds and an apple. Otherwise I'm eating similar lunch and dinner to before.

    My BMI is currently 27.4 so I'm still overweight. I've got about 6kg to go to get in the healthy category.

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  • Stumpy Pepys
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    Originally posted by Fussbudget View Post
    Yes but you can't control where the flab is, only how much of it there is so it's not a very useful distinction
    True. Although I imagine there are some discount plastic surgery clinics in Turkey who can suck out fat from one body part and inject it into another.



    Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View Post
    Up to a point. Exercise and muscle building can move the weight around without taking any off.
    I guess the only way to bulk up your skinny parts, without implants, is to do weight training. While simultaneously avoiding the beer belly.



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  • San Bernardhinault
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    Up to a point. Exercise and muscle building can move the weight around without taking any off.

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  • Fussbudget
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    Yes but you can't control where the flab is, only how much of it there is so it's not a very useful distinction

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  • San Bernardhinault
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    I'm definitely more in the treibeis faction here. I'd happily have a couple of extra kilos on my body if the general body shape was better and the weight more evenly distributed rather than so concentrated in belly flab.

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  • Stumpy Pepys
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    Originally posted by treibeis View Post
    I lost 5-10 kilos in summer by simply breaking my ankle.

    I've said it before on here, and been sort-of roundly condemned for doing so, but: your actual weight, in numbers, isn't that important. It's where the weight is and how wobbly that weight is.
    I can't agree with that. If you look at graphs of various conditions set against BMI (or waist measurements), it's clear being overweight or obese is a risk factor.

    (And yes, there are outliers.)

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  • Sporting
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    Originally posted by treibeis View Post
    I've said it before on here, and been sort-of roundly condemned for doing so, but: your actual weight, in numbers, isn't that important. It's where the weight is and how wobbly that weight is.
    Completely agree.

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  • treibeis
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    I lost 5-10 kilos in summer by simply breaking my ankle.

    I've said it before on here, and been sort-of roundly condemned for doing so, but: your actual weight, in numbers, isn't that important. It's where the weight is and how wobbly that weight is.

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  • Sporting
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    Originally posted by Janik View Post
    My weight has been stable at ~70.0kg since August 2020. Over that period the standard deviation on day-to-day variations is 0.49kg. So a possible error bar on any weight of ± 0.5kg (in fact likely less than that as 0.49kg isn't just the standard deviation due to noise - it also includes any changes due to signal as well). A weight change of + 1.0kg is therefore stark enough against the background fluctuation to be significant. It really is that easy to drive ones weight up.
    I'm the last person to talk since I meticulously track and record many aspects of my life but how long before the relentless weighing etc gets in the way of actually enjoying life? I 've just been to the gym, done some static cycling, a few odd weights, but recorded no stats. I enjoyed myself. Now as I say I can tell you where I spent the night in whatever date (try me!) you choose to mention, but the last time I had a weight card was when I was one. I feel fit enough despite definitely eating a wee bit too much and drinking a wee bit more than the limits.

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  • DCI Harry Batt
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    Originally posted by Janik View Post
    nodding to TonTon's point a few pages back about the variability personal of weight measurements,
    Rings a bell, but can't see it on this thread

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  • Nocturnal Submission
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    Originally posted by Janik View Post
    Anecdotal evidence only, and also nodding to TonTon's point a few pages back about the variability personal of weight measurements,* but going out for a curry and beer is a weight loss issue, isn't it? Even if it is in moderation it seems to be really quite impactful. Did that on Friday, had a starter and only half a rice and half a main plus some vegetables, along with two large beers. Result? 1.0kg heavier on Saturday morning, most of which was still there today. A day-to-day difference of 1.0kg is the biggest variation I've had in weeks - most days it will only change by 0.3kg or less.

    * - though things can be done about this by having a protocol and sticking to it. Something like "only weight oneself at 8:00am give or take 15 minutes, just wearing underwear, with an empty bladder (water is very dense stuff) and before eating or drinking anything that day". Even with that there will still be some random fluctuations, but your signal to noise will be significantly improved. And the over time you can look at trends with which the noise is effectively factored out.

    It's interesting that you say this. I've be thinking about detailing something similar, which is that the older I get the more I find that any evening out, whether a meal or just drinks, tends to sit with me as a weight gain much more than it did in the past and to a much greater extent. Even a moderate increase in consumption, a dessert or a couple of bottles of beers, perhaps at the end of a good day exercise-wise, seems to result in a disproportionate weight increase.

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  • Janik
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    Also, given I have a data set, I can give some approximations about how big those fluctuations are for me as someone operating with a robust weight protocol (mine isn't quite what I describe above, but is pretty similar).

    My weight has been stable at ~70.0kg since August 2020. Over that period the standard deviation on day-to-day variations is 0.49kg. So a possible error bar on any weight of ± 0.5kg (in fact likely less than that as 0.49kg isn't just the standard deviation due to noise - it also includes any changes due to signal as well). A weight change of + 1.0kg is therefore stark enough against the background fluctuation to be significant. It really is that easy to drive ones weight up.

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  • Janik
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    Yes. But. If you take a single weight once a week, that is precisely as prone to the fluctuations as daily. Both are just a single point measurement. However, if you weight daily and group those into a 7-day rolling average, then the signal to noise improves markedly (the noise should be equally distributed in every direction, so effectively cancels itself out).

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  • Sporting
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    Surely daily weighing gives more weird fuctuations. I prefer to go by feel and general body definition but a weekly weighing is perhaps better?

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  • Janik
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    Anecdotal evidence only, and also nodding to TonTon's point a few pages back about the variability personal of weight measurements,* but going out for a curry and beer is a weight loss issue, isn't it? Even if it is in moderation it seems to be really quite impactful. Did that on Friday, had a starter and only half a rice and half a main plus some vegetables, along with two large beers. Result? 1.0kg heavier on Saturday morning, most of which was still there today. A day-to-day difference of 1.0kg is the biggest variation I've had in weeks - most days it will only change by 0.3kg or less.

    * - though things can be done about this by having a protocol and sticking to it. Something like "only weight oneself at 8:00am give or take 15 minutes, just wearing underwear, with an empty bladder (water is very dense stuff) and before eating or drinking anything that day". Even with that there will still be some random fluctuations, but your signal to noise will be significantly improved. And the over time you can look at trends with which the noise is effectively factored out.

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  • Balderdasha
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    I like the mammals page too. As an update, I'm down to 66.7kg today meaning I've lost 9.1kg or a koala. Husband has now lost 13.2kg or a coyote. Between us we've lost 22.3kg or a maned wolf.

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  • Janik
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    I like the mammal weights page Balders linked to... apart from a slight issue with their internet scrapping for information on Drills, which means the 'Facts about the drill' section of the page tells us that "All DHP Paper Drills are precision made of the finest quality tool steel", "Fire drills are great!" and "The prospecting-drill is responsible for finding new opal fields." (that last one showing quite a lot of confidence placed by somebody on a bunch of monkeys).

    Anyway, the ~18-20kg or so that I lost back in 2020 would appear to be the equivalent of many types of deer or antelope.

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  • Balderdasha
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    My new medication makes me feel a bit nauseous which has a bonus side effect of me not wanting to eat much and means I've lost another 0.8kg. I'm 67.1kg today or just under 10 stone 8 pounds. I've lost 8.7kg in total or 1 stone 5 pounds this year. BMI is now 27.9. First time my BMI has been under 28 since September 2020, so over a year ago.

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  • nmrfox
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    Nice work Balderdasha !! Have to admit to a relapse in July when my wife went into hospital for her appendix to be removed. On my own at home for a week and I get very sloppy, fast food, too much cider etc. Didn't really get out of the rut until I had a week off work at end of August and determined that I'd get back on track. So far September has been a very good month and with good intentions in place for the rest of the year. I'm now at 15st 2lb (212lbs, 96.16kg) which isn't bad considering my height and build, but an determined to get below 200lb by year end. Feeling healthier and happier too it has to be said.

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  • Balderdasha
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    Weight loss efforts continue, albeit slowly. I'm now just under 68kg which means I've lost nearly 8kg since the start of the year, or more than 10% of my body weight at its highest. My husband has also lost just over 10kg over the same time period.

    I found a website that lists all mammals by their adult weight: https://thewebsiteofeverything.com/a...lt-weight.html

    I've lost a rhesus monkey. Husband has lost a honey badger. Between us we've lost a Reeve's muntjac deer.

    8kg more will get me into a healthy weight range. 15kg more will get me to what I consider to be my actual healthy weight.

    My fat percentage has gone down by about 10%. My water percentage has increased by 5% and is now hovering in the range it should be. My muscle mass has increased by over 5% and is nearly in the healthy range. My bone mass percentage has increased by 0.3%. I like my scales showing all these different measures. Exercising is not just about losing weight, it's about improving all of your health metrics.

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