"Send The Burgers Back"

[Sporting]

By the by, self-raising flour isn't really a thing in Spain.

[Balderdasha]

That may be true, I don't know. My husband does the bread baking in our family. I do the cakes and crumbles.

[Balderdasha]

And for crumble, I don't bother measuring anything at all. I throw in a random combination of some sort of flour and / or oats, sugar and / or honey, butter or oil, ground or flaked almonds or chopped nuts or desiccated coconut, maybe some raisins, and mix it all together with my fingers. I love crumble, you literally can't go wrong with it.

[ad hoc]

I think that with bread exact measurements are more important than with cakes but this is just my amateur perception.

Not really. I bake bread and it's not about measurements but feeling and sensing when the dough is right

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

I've never really understood our reluctance to adopt the metric system. It is all based on things that you can visualise that make internal sense. A metre is (as near as dammit) 1 10 millionth of the distance from the pole to the equator. You can fit 1000 litres in a cubic metre of water, and that will weigh 1000kg.

But no, we stick with miles, pounds and pints that are all completely arbitrary and bear no relation to each other, and indeed mean different amounts in different countries.

[Sporting]

And for crumble, I don't bother measuring anything at all. I throw in a random combination of some sort of flour and / or oats, sugar and / or honey, butter or oil, ground or flaked almonds or chopped nuts or desiccated coconut, maybe some raisins, and mix it all together with my fingers. I love crumble, you literally can't go wrong with it.

Yep!

[Sporting]

I've never really understood our reluctance to adopt the metric system. It is all based on things that you can visualise that make internal sense. A metre is (as near as dammit) 1 10 millionth of the distance from the pole to the equator. You can fit 1000 litres in a cubic metre of water, and that will weigh 1000kg.

But no, we stick with miles, pounds and pints that are all completely arbitrary and bear no relation to each other, and indeed mean different amounts in different countries.

In the UK there seems to be a halfway house kind of story. As for the US I'm constantly amused by the slavish addiction to Fahrenheit.

[Sits]

I must admit that now I’m used to a fully metric system, it’s pretty liberating.

Last time I drove in the UK I found myself converting the distances into km in my head. First time ever. I still remember doing the opposite on French holidays, and our early years here.

[San Bernardhinault]

Bread, fruit-bread, crumbles, cookies don’t require precision. What seems to require precision are cakey and macaroony and meringuey things. Basically, anything that gets made in 19th century American farmsteads doesn’t require precision, and anything made in French patisseries does.

[DCI Harry Batt]

easy for being able to swag what the amount means

"swag" there meaning "work out, estimate" or somesuch?

[Jah Womble]

Probably an element of ‘wing’ or ‘busk’ in there, too.

[caja-dglh]

"swag" there meaning "work out, estimate" or somesuch?

More visually estimate. I am never going to chop a shallot and then measure 1/4 of a cup of it.

[DCI Harry Batt]

Thanks, caja - don't recall coming across this usage before.

[ursus arctos]

I'm also curious about it.

It isn't USian

[Nocturnal Submission]

I'm also curious about it.

It isn't USian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scient...nd%20estimate.

[caja-dglh]

Well I guess the origin is this. I encountered it in banking I expect (along with POOMA)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scient...nd%20estimate.

[ursus arctos]

Interesting

Similar origin story to snafu

[Uncle Ethan]

I sent our local a private Facebook message after middle son had a bad meal. They gave him a free meal and all of us a round of drinks on the next visit. One of the negatives of the recent "Karen" controversies is it makes people feel bad for complaining when a complaint is warranted. Not ranting, just advising a venue when something is below par.