Even 100 days would be good.With the added bonus that she won't be covered in birdshit like Eddie Colston was
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Long but fascinating piece on the Confederate monument in Savannah
https://www.bonniebluetours.com/blog...-that-monument
There is a monument to Maj. Gen. Nathanael Greene, who fought in the Revolutionary War; the cornerstone was laid originally, and honored in a speech by Lafayette, in 1825. However, less known is that Greene owned slaves gifted to him for his service
https://georgiahistory.com/marker-mo...ve-plantation/
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Great stuff, Satchmo
And I now know for certain what tour company I will use when I visit SavannahLast edited by ursus arctos; 16-07-2020, 01:27.
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I spent a few days in Savannah and liked it a lot. I think it believes its own mythology about charming eccentricity just a little too much, hanging on to that Garden of Good and Evil stuff. And the fact that Sherman didn't burn it on his march to the sea so they think they're not quite as tainted with Confederacy stuff.
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Ursus, I know that Kemp is talking about a legal challenge but I have not seen evidence of the city authorities caving. The mask requirement posters are up on walls around the city and cannot be missed.
https://www.savannahga.gov/ImageRepo...cumentId=19747
https://www.blufftontoday.com/news/20200715/mayor-warns-savannah-businesses-to-mask-up-or-shut-down
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Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View PostI spent a few days in Savannah and liked it a lot. I think it believes its own mythology about charming eccentricity just a little too much, hanging on to that Garden of Good and Evil stuff. And the fact that Sherman didn't burn it on his march to the sea so they think they're not quite as tainted with Confederacy stuff.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/...eritage-museum
Then there's the fact that Johnny Mercer seems to have been able to mix with black kids when absorbing jazz influences. The confederacy commemoration was often melancholic rather than a celebration (see above), and in any case was often done in the 1900-1920s, as with Stone Mountain, which Savannah appears to have avoided. Economically, Savannah profited hugely from slavery as the place where cotton and rice were processed and shipped but the plantations themselves were outside the city.
A parallel with New Orleans could be made, in how the cities related to slavery. Neither was entirely absorbed into the South with no rough edges and opportunities for ambiguity, I'd argue.Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 16-07-2020, 18:50.
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Originally posted by Etienne View PostI'm not sure it was. It's a great statue, and I'd be happy for it to be the one chosen to stay there, but that should be a decision for the community to make, not a white artist.
Shropshire Council have voted to keep the Clive statue.
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George Washington is supposed to have been ambivalent about slavery but he visited Greene's Mulberry Grove slave plantation during his 1791 southern tour. He also discussed with Georgia's Governor the issue of fugitive slaves escaping into Spanish Florida. Then he went home to his own plantation.
https://georgiahistory.com/marker-mo...southern-tour/
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Jesus Christ. I know he had been edited back in the film. The best solution is to take all statues down starting with the ones that have sprung up outside football grounds in the last 20 years which I find so tacky. Most of the civic ones are Victorian tat which most people don't know about so they wouldn't be missed.
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Originally posted by Etienne View PostI'm not sure it was. It's a great statue, and I'd be happy for it to be the one chosen to stay there, but that should be a decision for the community to make, not a white artist.
Shropshire Council have voted to keep the Clive statue.
So, fuck them really and more guerrilla gigs pleaseLast edited by Duncan Gardner; 17-07-2020, 08:58.
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Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View PostGeorge Washington is supposed to have been ambivalent about slavery but he visited Greene's Mulberry Grove slave plantation during his 1791 southern tour. He also discussed with Georgia's Governor the issue of fugitive slaves escaping into Spanish Florida. Then he went home to his own plantation.
https://georgiahistory.com/marker-mo...southern-tour/
It’s one more thing that confirms my suspicion that all ideology is just a post hoc justification for doing what one wants to do anyway, usually to gain status or material comfort.
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A statue of singer Kate Smith was removed last year due to her racist repertoire:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/21/us/ph...tue/index.html
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Will Rogers
https://www.aoc.gov/explore-capitol-...rt/will-rogers
Rogers frequently used the n-word in NBC radio broadcasts, prompting a complaint from the NAACP.
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