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    Originally posted by 1974ddr View Post
    I'm a bit puzzled by his statement that it's Boris's decision whether he continues in his role. Is it like being in the mafia- you can't just resign?
    Putins decision surely?

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      Mark Rutte announced that his 96 year old mother died during the lockdown. Not of Coronavirus. But he couldn't visit her while she was dying due to a ban on visiting elderly residences during lockdown. I wouldn't be Mark Rutte's biggest fan, but that's definitely leading by example right there.

      And then you have Dominic Cummings and Boris Johnson.

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        Recall that Cummings and his wife both wrote a pack of lies in The Spectator saying they'd been locked down at home, and that Downing Street backed that claim:

        https://inews.co.uk/news/dominic-cum...lapsed-2548340

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          So the new line is "People will make up their own minds" about Cummings. It's all a matter of opinion, you know, whether breaking lockdown was a bad thing or not.

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            Oh, I'd made my mind up about that fucking cunt long before covid-19.

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              https://twitter.com/Douglas4Moray/status/1265196839231533057

              It's just one, junior, minister but I'm still surprised.

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                https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1265179459717607429

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                  https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1264948120368136194

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                    Originally posted by Levin View Post
                    It's just one, junior, minister but I'm still surprised.
                    I'm surprised one has broken ranks, but now he has I'd be surprised if he remains the only one.

                    His reasoning is problematic for the government - their line is based on Cummings acting reasonably to protect his family, and the minister is saying he accepts that explanation, but the explanation doesn't excuse it (and that others who wanted to protect their families didn't have that option open to them.

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                      The poor bloke was probably sat at his desk, with 500 emails from constituents in front of him asking why the government were continuing to back this blatant rule-breaker, and said to himself "You know what, I've got nothing I can say to them. Bugger this for a game of soldiers."

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                        ...and now Tory MP Simon Jupp goes public with his criticism, with some very similar wording to Ross - "I decided not to comment publicly on the situation with Dominic Cummings until I'd heard the full details".

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                          'Johnson banking on lockdown-easing talks to deflect from his top adviser's controversy.'

                          Too chuffing right he is.

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                            Was just about to comment on the Douglas Ross thing after casting about for the right forum.

                            But hey.

                            "Time to move on", eh, folks!

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                              https://twitter.com/jamesfrith/status/1265201715374166016?s=21
                              there’s a lot of anger out there.

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                                Fuck me, this is almost too good to be true...

                                https://greensdictofslang.com/entry/4wyllxa

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                                  Apparently it's a common method of checking your eyesight. At least among right wing shits
                                  https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1265185119926706181

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                                    Polling showing the approval rating for the PM and the Government generally has plunged 20 points over the weekend and now negative, a few weeks after he was riding it high.

                                    Another wave of Tory backbenchers calling for Cummings to go starting to build. Still needs someone high profile, preferably a Cabinet minister, to step it up a level. This of course is happening after they flushed any resistant elements out of the parliamentary party before the last election, so any sizeable revolt now is remarkable in itself.

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                                      Originally posted by Jimski View Post
                                      Fuck me, this is almost too good to be true...

                                      https://greensdictofslang.com/entry/4wyllxa
                                      Sir George Bowes sounds eminently sensible to me

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                                        https://twitter.com/tranhie17237095/status/1264990868085379072?s=21

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                                          There are a lot of things I don't understand about the Conservatives, but one thing I thought they were good at was pragmatic ruthlessness. It would surely have been simple to arrange for Cummings's apologetic resignation on Friday / Saturday, while he in reality carries on doing exactly the same as he does now, only by email instead of in person, before a Mandelsonesque rehabilitation in six months. Meanwhile his name fades from the public consciousness as quickly as that Scottish politician who went walking somewhere and that scientist who met up with his bit on the side. Tories don't lose 20 points in the polls and the Mail can praise Johnson's strong leadership.

                                          And yet this happens. All those snide comments of "I wonder what dirt Cummings is holding on them all?" suddenly sound a lot more believable.

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                                            I mean, Cummings is the government. It makes no more sense to ask why the government hasn't forced Cummings to resign than it does to ask why Trump hasn't forced Kushner to resign.

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                                              Gove is doing a round of media interviews which seems designed to provoke. His latest is that Cummings drove to Barnard Castle for the purposes of exercise, so it was allowed (even though it wasn't).

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                                                Plus they have an 80 seat majority with a possible 4 and a half years until the next election. They can, and will, do what they want.

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                                                  Leverage: Cummings' wife protected Johnson from allegations that he groped her:

                                                  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9126331.html

                                                  Meanwhile:

                                                  [URL="https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1264977865784918016"]https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/stat...77865784918016[/URL]

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                                                    Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                                                    Leverage: Cummings' wife protected Johnson from allegations that he groped her:

                                                    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9126331.html
                                                    Cummings has had power over him a lot longer than since Septmber 2019 and Johnson wouldn't "die in a ditch" (to use his own terminology) over an allegation that is quite low on the list of what is alleged against him. There was twitter chatter over the weekend about another inappropriate advance he is alleged to have made to her (to put it mildly) but Johnson would still chortle that off as top japes.

                                                    I'm more intrigued by what power the two of them have over the others who are defending him to the point of ridicule (like Gove, above).

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