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    Best country to go on holiday to: the first debate; what's missing?

    Afghanistan
    Albania
    Algeria
    Andorra
    Angola
    Antigua and Barbuda
    Argentina
    Armenia
    Australia
    Austria
    Azerbaijan
    Bahamas
    Bahrain
    Bangladesh
    Barbados
    Belarus
    Belgium
    Belize
    Benin
    Bhutan
    Bolivia
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    Botswana
    Brazil
    Brunei Darussalam
    Bulgaria
    Burkina Faso
    Burundi
    Cambodia
    Cameroon
    Canada
    Cape Verde
    Central African Republic
    Chad
    Chile
    China
    Colombia
    Comoros
    Congo
    Congo (Democratic Republic of the)
    Costa Rica
    Côte d'Ivoire
    Croatia
    Cuba
    Cyprus
    Czech Republic
    Denmark
    Djibouti
    Dominica
    Dominican Republic
    Ecuador
    Egypt
    El Salvador
    Equatorial Guinea
    Eritrea
    Estonia
    Ethiopia
    Fiji
    Finland
    France
    Gabon
    Gambia
    Georgia
    Germany
    Ghana
    Greece
    Grenada
    Guatemala
    Guinea
    Guinea-Bissau
    Guyana
    Haiti
    Honduras
    Hungary
    Iceland
    India
    Indonesia
    Iran (Islamic Republic of)
    Iraq
    Ireland
    Israel
    Italy
    Jamaica
    Japan
    Jordan
    Kazakhstan
    Kenya
    Kiribati
    Korea (Democratic People's Republic of)
    Korea (Republic of)
    Kosovo0
    Kuwait
    Kyrgyzstan
    Lao People's Democratic Republic
    Latvia
    Lebanon
    Lesotho
    Liberia
    Libya
    Liechtenstein
    Lithuania
    Luxembourg
    Macedonia (The former Yugoslav Republic of)
    Madagascar
    Malawi
    Malaysia
    Maldives
    Mali
    Malta
    Marshall Islands
    Mauritania
    Mauritius
    Mexico
    Micronesia (Federated States of)
    Republic of Moldova
    Monaco
    Mongolia
    Montenegro
    Morocco
    Mozambique
    Myanmar
    Namibia
    Nauru
    Nepal
    Netherlands
    New Zealand
    Nicaragua
    Niger
    Nigeria
    Norway
    Oman
    Pakistan
    Palestine
    Palau
    Panama
    Papua New Guinea
    Paraguay
    Peru
    Philippines
    Poland
    Portugal
    Qatar
    Romania
    Russian Federation
    Rwanda
    Saint Kitts and Nevis
    Saint Lucia
    Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
    Samoa
    San Marino
    Sao Tome and Principe
    Saudi Arabia
    Senegal
    Serbia
    Seychelles
    Sierra Leone
    Singapore
    Slovakia
    Slovenia
    Solomon Islands
    Somalia
    South Africa
    South Sudan
    Spain
    Sri Lanka
    Sudan
    Suriname
    Swaziland/Eswatini
    Sweden
    Switzerland
    Syrian Arab Republic
    Tajikistan
    Tanzania (United Republic of)
    Thailand
    Tibet
    Timor-Leste
    Togo
    Tonga
    Taiwan
    Trinidad and Tobago
    Tunisia
    Turkey
    Turkmenistan
    Tuvalu
    Uganda
    Ukraine
    United Arab Emirates
    United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
    United States of America
    Uruguay
    Uzbekistan
    Vanuatu
    Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of)
    Viet Nam
    Yemen
    Zambia
    Zimbabwe
    Last edited by Sporting; 17-05-2020, 10:54.

    #2
    Eurozone seems a bit of a weird one. Surely that covers too many countries?

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      #3
      Well, as Martinique etc are included, I suppose you could get the gears grinding on OTF by splitting the UK into its four constituent parts.

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        #4
        If you're going to allow Isle of Man, surely the Balearics deserve a place - or are you worried we'll all vote for Majorca and it'll be a walkover?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Balderdasha View Post
          Eurozone seems a bit of a weird one. Surely that covers too many countries?
          Hah yeah...copy, paste, edited!

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            #6
            Originally posted by pebblethefish View Post
            If you're going to allow Isle of Man, surely the Balearics deserve a place - or are you worried we'll all vote for Majorca and it'll be a walkover?
            Not allowing or disallowing nowt...though Mallorca (spelling!) is an integral part of Spain and not like the Isle of Man.

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              #7
              Does "to go on holiday" mean staying there for an appreciable period and not leaving? The Vatican City would be awful. No pubs, and unless you got very friendly with a member of the Swiss Guard, you're sleeping in St Peter's Square.

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                #8
                And you'd have to look at their flag...

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                  #9
                  The Pacific countries (bar Fiji) have all escaped, so Kiribati or Tonga would seem ideal if you start saving now.

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                    #10
                    It's going to be interesting matching up a large, diverse country like, say, China with the Isle of Man or Vatican. Still, bring it on.

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                      #11
                      Would it be worth adding Tibet as a separate Chinese region or is that too contentious?

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                        #12
                        No, Tibet will be added.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Balderdasha View Post
                          Would it be worth adding Tibet as a separate Chinese region or is that too contentious?
                          Otf is on the banned list already, o think

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                            #14
                            I know that it is Saturday night and I have had some beers but am I the only one that this thread is like the Cryptic Crossword to?

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                              #15
                              Okay, so I’ve edited the OP to make the list that of the officially recognised UN states with the possibly controversial addition of Tibet. If anyone else wants to suggest the inclusion of any other disputed territories, then just let us know and we’ll see if they get a thumbs up or down.

                              I’ll divide the countries into about twenty groups of approximately 10 (exact number depending on late additions). This will be done alphabetically; no seeding (how could there be?) You then choose a maximum of three countries from each group where you would like to visit. The top two from each group will qualify for the next stage. (If there are any ties I’ll eliminate my own votes.)

                              Questions already asked:

                              “Does "to go on holiday" mean staying there for an appreciable period and not leaving? The Vatican City would be awful. No pubs, and unless you got very friendly with a member of the Swiss Guard, you're sleeping in St Peter's Square.

                              It’s a holiday, not a prison sentence. Minimum one day, maximum a month.


                              “Can it be "wish I could go there" in a 5-star hotel, escorted private travel sort of way, or does it have to be in the back of an onion truck?

                              Completely up to you. This is a paid-for holiday. Hotel, Airbnb, camping: your call.

                              Extra information:

                              You can go alone, with family, friends, boss, whatever. And roam or linger in one town or beauty spot as long as you wish.

                              Let’s imagine that Covid-19 has been beaten, shall we? Otherwise we’ll mostly all be staying home. However, what we won’t pretend is that dictatorships and political repression have magically disappeared, as there will be people who refuse to visit certain countries on moral grounds.

                              You don’t have to have already been to your choices (though of course you can revisit). Any travel anecdotes or suggestions along the way are more than welcome.
                              Any more questions?


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                                #16
                                I would request (just for their rightful place on that list) the inclusion of Kosovo and Palestine. Not that either are high on my list of places I want to go right now, but they deserve a go.

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                                  #17
                                  Suggestions appproved and OP edited.

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                                    #18
                                    So we’ll be nominating countries, rather than areas within a country? Or is that TBA?

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                                      #19
                                      Countries but of course you're free to mention which areas you'd most like to go to.

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                                        #20
                                        Let's just kick off. Maximum of three choices, remember.

                                        Group A:

                                        Afghanistan
                                        Albania
                                        Algeria
                                        Andorra
                                        Angola
                                        Antigua and Barbuda
                                        Argentina
                                        Armenia
                                        Australia
                                        Austria

                                        Afghanistan would be scenically stunning, but it's so dangerous. Not really interested in Angola or Armenia. Now Australia probably ranks among the front runners for this competition, and there are loads of things to see there, but somehow I've seen it all on TV. Argentina for sure. Big country but a month should do it; we have friends there and I could take in some football matches and stuff myself on prime beef. I think I could take or leave Austria. There's something about the conservatism of the country which bugs me, though things have improved recently.

                                        My choices are:

                                        Andorra (great scenery and I've never been there)
                                        Argentina
                                        Albania (I'm curious)

                                        On edit; group B below. Closing dates around Tuesday, then I'll put up two more groups.
                                        Last edited by Sporting; 17-05-2020, 11:53.

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                                          #21
                                          Well that’s interesting. I came up with the same three, before I saw yours.

                                          Clearly, I don’t need to list Australia.

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                                            #22
                                            Group B:

                                            Azerbaijan
                                            Bahamas
                                            Bahrain
                                            Bangladesh
                                            Barbados
                                            Belarus
                                            Belgium
                                            Belize
                                            Benin
                                            Bhutan

                                            Here I would avoid Belarus like the plague. I've no real wish to revisit Belgium, except for the beer. Bhutan must be stunning. For me not an outstanding group but my picks are:

                                            Belize
                                            Benin
                                            Bhutan

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                                              #23
                                              So we're just nominating our top three? Are they in a specific order (1st, 2nd, 3rd) or all ranked the same?

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                                                #24
                                                Another one that's possibly missing is Bermuda.

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                                                  #25
                                                  Albania
                                                  Algeria
                                                  Australia

                                                  Bangladesh
                                                  Benin
                                                  Bhutan

                                                  All countries that I've never been to. Austria, Belgium and Belize being the ones in this set that I have been to - I'd skip another trip to Belize, and revisit Austria and Belgium but wouldn't be terribly excited about it.

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