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    First places:

    Argentina 13
    Bhutan 15
    Brazil 11
    Canada 14
    Croatia 12
    Ecuador 8
    Greece 13
    Iceland 12
    Italy 14
    Laos 12
    Madagascar 14
    Mexico 12
    New Zealand 14
    Peru 13
    Portugal 13
    Slovenia 11
    Spain 14
    Tanzania 13
    Turkey 16
    Vietnam 14

    Second places:

    Albania 10
    Bahamas 9
    Bulgaria 8
    Chile 11
    Czech Republic 7
    Egypt 8
    Georgia 11
    India 11
    Japan 13
    Lebanon 9
    Malaysia 10
    Mongolia 10
    Nepal 9
    Poland 9
    Russia 12
    Seychelles 8
    Sri Lanka 13
    Thailand 13
    UK 13
    USA 13

    Highest scoring losers:

    South Africa 11
    China 10
    Australia 9
    Germany 9
    Indonesia 9
    Iran 9
    Norway 9
    Romania 9
    Uzbekistan 9

    Nul points:


    Afghanistan
    Bahrain
    Brunei
    Burkina Faso

    Chad
    Comoros
    Congo

    Dominica
    Guinea
    Gabon
    Iraq
    Guyana
    Lithuania
    Micronesia
    Niger
    Qatar
    Saudi Arabia
    UAE

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      So we have 49 countries left. Divides nicely into 7. Each group winner will qualify for the quarter finals along with the highest scoring second.

      In this stage please put, in each group, your three faves in order. 1st gets 5 points, 2nd 3 points, 3rd 1 point. Whatever criteria you want (bucket list, next holiday, honeymoon, whatever). Comments as ever more than welcome.

      Group 1:

      Argentina
      Bahamas
      China
      Brazil
      Czech Republic
      Germany
      Iceland

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        Group 1.

        1. China
        2. Brazil
        3. Argentina

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          1. Argentina
          2. Germany
          3. Iceland

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            1. Germany

            2. Brazil

            3. China

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              1. Bahamas - Just looks gorgeous, a beautiful multi-island country. Junkanoo looks mad and I’d like to see just how funky Nassau really is.
              2. Brazil - interesting, diverse and huge.
              3. Argentina - ditto, almost edged it over Brazil as I speak some Spanish.

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                1 - Argentina. Glaciers, Patagonia, Pampas, Tierra Del Fuego, the Andes, Mendoza and the wine. And apparently Buenos Aires is cool, too.

                2 - Germany. I love being in Germany. I love tootling up the Mosel Valley, the roman ruins of Trier. Hanging out in Koln and going up the cathedral. Eating bratwurst in Thuringia. Driving round the black forest with friends. The train down the Rhine Valley. And there's so much in the south and east I've not seen

                3 - Iceland. Mostly volcanoes and geysers and hot springs, but also barrenness.

                Brazil doesn't cut it for me because the cities seem a little crowded, and I'm not a huge fan of the whole rainforest thing. China, like most of east and south-east Asia, has never been much of a draw for me - probably unfairly. Czechia's nice enough but a bit overwhelmed by this competition. Bahamas is down at the bottom here, not even particularly interesting to me by the standards of small Caribbean islands.

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                  1. Brazil
                  2. Iceland
                  3. China

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                    1. China
                    2. Czech
                    3. Germany

                    Frankly I'm finding this particular set somewhat uninspiring.

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                      1. Argentina
                      2. China
                      3. Iceland

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                        1: Iceland - was only there 8 months ago and badly want to go back again and see the bits I missed and try and take a bit more time. You can never get enough waterfalls, glacier, general emptiness. And th northern lights.
                        2: Germany - especially Berlin
                        3: Argentina - just over Brazil. Wouldn't mind seeing a Boca - River match

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                          Argentina
                          Brazil
                          Iceland

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                            1. Brazil
                            2. Argentina
                            3. Iceland.

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                              Brazil
                              China
                              Iceland

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                                China
                                Iceland
                                Germany

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                                  13 votes in so far. I'll leave voting open until this evening, in 12 or so hours.

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                                    Given that my Brazil boycott is still in place ...

                                    1. Argentina
                                    2. China
                                    3. Iceland

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                                      1. Brazil
                                      2. Iceland
                                      3. Argentina

                                      With money no object I'd happily spend forever "doing" South America (I assume I have guides who are a cross between David Attenborough and Jason Bourne, keeping me well informed safely).

                                      I've never been to any part of the continent, whereas with China and much of Europe I'd just be a total bore, muttering "wasn't like this 30 years ago, no queues then, so untouristed, blah blah".

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                                        All very close. None of my top favourites in there, but nowhere that I wouldn't want to go.

                                        1. Bahamas (I'm a lazy sod)
                                        2. Brazil
                                        3. China

                                        Also- what evil kind of group must Lithuania have been in to get zero points???

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                                          Originally posted by Sam View Post
                                          Given that my Brazil boycott is still in place ...
                                          What boycott was this?

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                                            1. Germany 2. Argentina 3. China

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                                              Oooh.

                                              1. Germany
                                              2. China

                                              first two are pretty easy. I love Germany and there is so much to see. China has thousands of years of history to see and explore.

                                              3. Czech Republic?

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                                                1. Argentina
                                                2. Brazil
                                                3. Czechia

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                                                  Nul points:

                                                  Afghanistan
                                                  Bahrain
                                                  Brunei
                                                  Burkina Faso
                                                  Chad
                                                  Comoros
                                                  Congo
                                                  Dominica
                                                  Guinea
                                                  Gabon
                                                  Iraq
                                                  Guyana
                                                  Lithuania
                                                  Micronesia
                                                  Niger
                                                  Qatar
                                                  Saudi Arabia
                                                  UAE

                                                  Interesting. If I were to choose three countries from the nuls, I'd go for (not in any order):

                                                  Gabon
                                                  Dominica
                                                  Micronesia

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                                                    Originally posted by Vicarious Thrillseeker View Post
                                                    Nul points:

                                                    Afghanistan
                                                    Bahrain
                                                    Brunei
                                                    Burkina Faso
                                                    Chad
                                                    Comoros
                                                    Congo
                                                    Dominica
                                                    Guinea
                                                    Gabon
                                                    Iraq
                                                    Guyana
                                                    Lithuania
                                                    Micronesia
                                                    Niger
                                                    Qatar
                                                    Saudi Arabia
                                                    UAE

                                                    Interesting. If I were to choose three countries from the nuls, I'd go for (not in any order):

                                                    Gabon
                                                    Dominica
                                                    Micronesia
                                                    A losers' contest is in the offing.

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