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    Originally posted by DPDPDPDP View Post
    Here, in the Isle of Man, lockdown has been lifted for quite a while. No new cases for about 90 days now and no active cases. Borders are still shut. Easier to contain the virus in a small island.
    I was under the impression that the borders had open slightly and Manx residents can now leave and come back, as long as they quarantine for 14 days on their return (from anywhere, no 'air bridges' here). I hope so for my sister's other half's sake. He really needed to come over to London for work, some meetings that weren't working effectively remotely and had to be face-to-face. He put it off and put it off, what with having two kids from his previous marriage who live on the Island that he wouldn't be able to see for weeks once he left. But then he came over in early July as reports were emanating that this change to residents being able to return-with-quarantine was coming. Then, just after getting to the mainland, it was announced as expected. Or so he thought.

    He was due to fly back on Tuesday. I presume he had the rules right and is now back at home into his third(!) period of quarantine. The first was when he believes he (and his brother) caught SARS-CoV-2 as they had a number of the symptoms ("clearly something different from a standard cold or 'flu"). This was way back in March. No.2 was when he caught a minor cold in June and diligently got himself tested. That came back negative, but with advice that he had to self-isolated anyway. And breaking quarantine was punishable by up to 6 months in jail! The symptoms of the cold were gone within a day, apparently. And now a third time.
    My sister has been added to the lease of the house in Manx so she also has resident status, with the intention that she will also be heading over very soon. She was also meant to be going on Tuesday, but the paperwork wasn't ready in time. There was concern that this would mean a fourth quarantine period for the boyfriend when she finally can make it across, but counter-intuitively if someone is quarantining in your abode that doesn't mean you also have to. Unless they are showing symptoms.

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      Un-easing the lockdown - Greater Manchester, parts of East Lancashire and parts of West Yorkshire all join Leicester on the naughty step. And in the Jeux Avec Frontieres edition, Luxembourg join Spain on the Q-list.

      Despite the aforementioned 500 people getting tested at Carlisle United last week, the number of positive tests has reduced locally by any measure - Cumbria as a whole down from 55 last week to 41 this week, and both Carlisle and Eden local authority areas down week on week.

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        Current state of play with my local swimming pool: the outdoor pool could in theory open, but won't be because there wasn't enough time to perform all the safety checks to make it a viable season. The indoor pool will be open, but only for scheduled swimming lessons, not for general public. Children will have to arrive for lessons already dressed in swimsuits and can only use the changing rooms after their lesson, which may make sense when you drive your children to the pool, but not when you routinely get them to walk two miles to the pool, as I used to before lockdown. And apparently instructors will no longer be in the pool with the kids, but will stand on the side, which personally, doesn't sound very safe when considering a class of rambunctious four-year-olds. I've frozen the children's memberships for a month and will reassess at the end of August, but I suspect my conclusion will be not to send the kids back to swimming lessons this year.

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          On the BBC news item regarding the postponement of the easing, or whatever, the first two things that they mention are that casinos and bowling alleys will not be able to reopen. In the whole 4+ months of this, I have not heard a single person complain about their inability to go bowling. Maybe I just hang out in the wrong circles.

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            My mother in law's been going bowling, which rather surprised me as I didn't think the alleys were open over here. Lord knows why they were open, politicians in the pocket of Big Bowling or something.

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              Originally posted by Janik View Post
              I was under the impression that the borders had open slightly and Manx residents can now leave and come back, as long as they quarantine for 14 days on their return (from anywhere, no 'air bridges' here). I hope so for my sister's other half's sake. He really needed to come over to London for work, some meetings that weren't working effectively remotely and had to be face-to-face. He put it off and put it off, what with having two kids from his previous marriage who live on the Island that he wouldn't be able to see for weeks once he left. But then he came over in early July as reports were emanating that this change to residents being able to return-with-quarantine was coming. Then, just after getting to the mainland, it was announced as expected. Or so he thought.

              He was due to fly back on Tuesday. I presume he had the rules right and is now back at home into his third(!) period of quarantine. The first was when he believes he (and his brother) caught SARS-CoV-2 as they had a number of the symptoms ("clearly something different from a standard cold or 'flu"). This was way back in March. No.2 was when he caught a minor cold in June and diligently got himself tested. That came back negative, but with advice that he had to self-isolated anyway. And breaking quarantine was punishable by up to 6 months in jail! The symptoms of the cold were gone within a day, apparently. And now a third time.
              My sister has been added to the lease of the house in Manx so she also has resident status, with the intention that she will also be heading over very soon. She was also meant to be going on Tuesday, but the paperwork wasn't ready in time. There was concern that this would mean a fourth quarantine period for the boyfriend when she finally can make it across, but counter-intuitively if someone is quarantining in your abode that doesn't mean you also have to. Unless they are showing symptoms.
              Janik, you’re right. Firstly completely closed borders. Now restricted travel allowed with the 14 day quarantine. The rules are a bot convoluted regarding quarantining in an abode with someone who has symptoms. To be honest I haven’t been following it that closely as neither I nor family members have been or plan to go anywhere.

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                Originally posted by pebblethefish View Post
                On the BBC news item regarding the postponement of the easing, or whatever, the first two things that they mention are that casinos and bowling alleys will not be able to reopen. In the whole 4+ months of this, I have not heard a single person complain about their inability to go bowling. Maybe I just hang out in the wrong circles.
                Yes, but I bet the people who run bowling alleys are fucking ecstatic.

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                  "Tom, who was on the beach with a group of school and college friends aged 17 and 18 who had travelled to Bournemouth on the train from Southampton, said: “It feels safe to me. I don’t know anyone who has had coronavirus. Until I do I don’t think it will feel real to me.”

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                    Tom is a Cunt.

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                      There's plenty of Toms in Ireland as well.

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                        Oh yeh, loads on Balbriggan beaches each night shifting and boozing (and leaving their shit beer bottles behind them). Quite a few middle aged Toms in Tesco today as well who must think masks are fer bollixes.

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                          Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
                          Oh yeh, loads on Balbriggan beaches each night shifting and boozing (and leaving their shit beer bottles behind them). Quite a few middle aged Toms in Tesco today as well who must think masks are fer bollixes.
                          What does shifting mean here? Or is it shitting?

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                            Shifting=heavy petting.

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                              Originally posted by Sporting View Post
                              "Tom, who was on the beach with a group of school and college friends aged 17 and 18 who had travelled to Bournemouth on the train from Southampton, said: “It feels safe to me. I don’t know anyone who has had coronavirus. Until I do I don’t think it will feel real to me.”
                              Carry on, I like it. When I said the same three months ago, I was "over-reacting".

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                                We went bodyboarding yesterday. It was our first Gower visit since you-know-what. The car park attendant told us London had been locked down again though I haven't had this corroborated.

                                He was right about one thing though - the loos were shut due to you-know-what so we had to piss in the sea.

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                                  Just discovered this about the Eat Out To Help Out thing:
                                  It applies to all food and non-alcoholic drinks, as long as they’re eaten in (takeaway meals aren’t part of the scheme).
                                  What the actual fuck. So we're actively incentivising riskier behaviour now.

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                                    "It's your altruistic duty to spend money to help the economy," say the millionaires who are salting away their cash in tax havens.

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                                      Originally posted by Ginger Yellow View Post
                                      Just discovered this about the Eat Out To Help Out thing:

                                      What the actual fuck. So we're actively incentivising riskier behaviour now.
                                      Indeed. See also plans for an "online sales tax", designed to try to get people into shops (they've explicitly stated that as an objective). And trying to get people back commuting on public transport, just so that people start buying lunch at the likes of Pret again.

                                      They are desperate to get everything back to "normal", even if that kills people. It's early to mid March all over again.

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                                        Given I'm in Manchester, I think that the advice boils down to "only gather within six feet of a card reader".

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                                          I had a haircut today. And a beard trim. P

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                                            It is looking increasingly likely that Preston is going to follow Manchester, Bolton, Wigan and Blackburn into the "local lockdown" pot. Which will leave Chorley and Leyland alone for now, a bit like the San Marino of not being in lockdown. Which is frankly ludicrous, as 90% of people who live here work in one of the others every day.

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