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    Yeah they saw everything the Corbyn leadership did as an authoritarian power grab because they can't believe that people would be in politics for any other purpose.

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      Originally posted by E10 Rifle View Post
      It should never be forgotten just how illiberal the Labour right is, and that that illiberalism is a badge of honour. It's been tempting to paint, say, Blairism as defined by its economic aspects (relaxed about privatisation and anti-union legislation), but it's authoritarian gestures that really float its boat.
      I know this is a side issue here, but that tendency in Labour - and certain parts of union leadership - to view liberalism as an enemy of the workers, and to consider it - at best - a dangerous distraction from the big picture, was always one of the things that put me off the party. The fact that it was deep seated rather than opportunistic was even more disturbing.

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        Strange that you didn't support Corbyn's Labour, given he and his shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott have an impeccable record on civil liberties. whilst Civil Liberties maven Sir Keir is insisting on abstaining on a bill which gives the police and secret service the right to commit crimes, up to and including murder, with impunity.

        All gone.

        https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1316781432912728065?s=20

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          https://twitter.com/frankieboyle/status/1316690129294155776?s=21

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            ? https://twitter.com/pputoday/status/1316811362249641984?s=21

            human Rights Keith

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              https://twitter.com/danhancox/status/1316825508164833282?s=20

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                Such charming people

                https://twitter.com/benpbradshaw/status/1316846526887530497?s=21

                sudden flashback to a party for Obama election which was full
                of young Labour SPADs arguing for increasing the length of detention to 90 days

                they’re probably all Mp’s now

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                  So fundamentally unserious
                  it really is just a game.

                  https://twitter.com/andrewbartletta/status/1317045276322967554?s=21

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                    Thanks Keir

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                      Forensic

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                        Labour is pretty much doomed to the SLab trajectory in England I fear. Pissing off the voters you have left to chase the ones who aren't coming back and pleasing no one at all. Fuck knows what comes next. Probably fucking Vox with a cloth cap.

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                          Lovely people

                          https://twitter.com/sarah_woolley/status/1317779370581393408?s=21

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                            Westminster's most persistent and self-aggrandising Twitter troll doing her thing again I see

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                              Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
                              Labour is pretty much doomed to the SLab trajectory in England I fear. Pissing off the voters you have left to chase the ones who aren't coming back and pleasing no one at all. Fuck knows what comes next. Probably fucking Vox with a cloth cap.
                              Labour cannibalising the LibDem Remainers and Green votes while the Tories get cover from whatever wheeze Farage thinks of next?

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                                Labour cannibalising the LibDem Remainers and Green votes while the Tories get cover from whatever wheeze Farage thinks of next?
                                The only way i would vote for the shower of bastards currently running Labour in place of my Lib Dem support would be tactically anti-Tory. And given that LD were just 3,000 off the Tories in S Cambs last general election, with Labour nowhere, I'm pretty sure to stay LD. If our ward gets moved into the Cambridge parliamentary constituency, which is a 2 horse Lab- LD race I'd have to think a bit harder about it. But I'm pretty sure that I'd vote LD because (a) there is absolutely zero chance that in a hung parliament LD will go anywhere near supporting a Brexit Tory party in government, the Tories and LD are getting more and more into opposites of each other every month, and (b) I would prefer an LD-Lab coalition to a Lab majority because LDs might actually bring in some kind of basic respect for civil liberties.

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                                  https://twitter.com/Sabrina_Huck/status/1318600966229364738?s=20

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                                    reminder, if you were wondering, why andy Burnham isn't leader of the Labour Party

                                    https://twitter.com/RPCorpIntl/status/1318618822061002752?s=20

                                    he picked Michael Dugher now working for the bailiffs trade asssociation as his campaign organiser

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                                      Bailiffs are fucking scum. I used to work in an office next door to a firm of bailiffs and the way they would talk about people - openly, in the car park, where they could clearly be heard - was absolutely horrendous.

                                      A pox on the lot of them.

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                                        come on (those of us who are) Londoners -show this rotten government what we're made of

                                        https://twitter.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/1318644310875799554?s=20
                                        Last edited by Nefertiti2; 20-10-2020, 20:34.

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                                          The scum've being going for tfl since the start of the pandemic.

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                                            From that FT piece:

                                            In his letter Mr Shapps said he expected Londoners to pay more through a supplement to their council tax to help improve TfL’s finances.
                                            He also made clear he expected the mayor to begin “pensions and workplace reform” at TfL, accelerate the “inadequate” progress on implementing driverless trains, cut fare concessions for children and pensioners and implement a fares increase of more than the “RPI inflation + 1 per cent” model agreed in May. The mayor has imposed a fares freeze over the past four years.
                                            The transport secretary also urged the mayor to extend the central London congestion charging zone to cover the same areas as the “Ultra Low Emission Zone” from October 2021. Extending the zone to the north and south circular roads would increase its size 18-fold.

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                                              Also The tubes would stop running



                                              https://twitter.com/ValShawcross/status/1318817251416563713?s=20

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                                                The worst thing local authorities could do is allow themselves to be pitted against one another and picked off one by one as Thatcher did with the unions in the 80’s

                                                scabby Jarvis

                                                https://twitter.com/paulbranditv/status/1318824681261178880?s=21

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                                                  He was always a cunt.

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                                                    Imagine demanding the Labour Party backs s referendum on Europe then when you get to lead it selling out EU citizens in this country

                                                    https://twitter.com/natalieben/status/1318929537917460480?s=21

                                                    Jeremy “secret Brexiteer “ Corbyn backed the rights of Emu citizens here from day one

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