Question for the Labour Party experts on here - how much freedom of choice does a Labour leader actually have re the make up of the shadow cabinet? I vaguely recall that the list of names is pre-selected for him by some kind of membership-wide vote and all he can do is allocate the names to the posts - is that still the case?
Originally posted by Rogin the Armchair fanView Post
If the BBC keep pointedly calling him "Sir Keir" he's not going to win back the popular working class support from good old bumbling Boris.
I don't think the Beeb are intentionally trying to undermine him by calling him "Sir Kier", more following protocol. I can only imagine the e-mails and letters they would recieve from monarchist middle England should they fail to do so.
Originally posted by Evariste Euler GaussView Post
Question for the Labour Party experts on here - how much freedom of choice does a Labour leader actually have re the make up of the shadow cabinet? I vaguely recall that the list of names is pre-selected for him by some kind of membership-wide vote and all he can do is allocate the names to the posts - is that still the case?
That used to be the case until Ed Miliband scrapped the annual election of the Shadow Cabinet (cheered on by the Progress tendency) - now it is purely the Leader's choice.
I don't think the Beeb are intentionally trying to undermine him by calling him "Sir Kier", more following protocol. I can only imagine the e-mails and letters they would recieve from monarchist middle England should they fail to do so.
Course they fucking are, as Steve Ignorant would say. They couldn't give a toss about Ruritanian protocol (or what the mass of monarchy fans think).
Their news services need to be abolished, or sent on a Long March to the rougher interfaces of BT14
Course they fucking are, as Steve Ignorant would say. They couldn't give a toss about Ruritanian protocol (or what the mass of monarchy fans think).
Their news services need to be abolished, or sent on a Long March to the rougher interfaces of BT14
Yup, unless I'm mis-remembering there was very little use of Sir Keir before yesterday. Of course a title is like catnip to people who work in the London media so it might be that malicious.
He’s started by writing an article and putting it behind the Times’ paywall.
So that’s reassuring.
There's a few people getting upset by that who weren't getting upset about Corbyn's final article being in the Telegraph the other day. Storm in a teacup.
This sir bollocks is irritating to be around. Bloke I’d known very slightly for years ended up being knighted. From being generally known by an abbreviation of his first name loads started hoying sir in front of it and a few pulled those up quietly who didn’t. He or his Mrs nivver made a fuss apparently.
It may even help pull a few floating idiot votes back from the edge once the current crisis settles and the reality of what they voted for bites.
Originally posted by That Night In BarcelonaView Post
Yup, unless I'm mis-remembering there was very little use of Sir Keir before yesterday. Of course a title is like catnip to people who work in the London media so it might be that malicious.
You are mis-remembering. A quick search on the BBC site just with the words Starmer and Brexit turns up loads of occasions of the Sir prefix.
I'm not saying that BBC news aren't still deep in the pocket of Johnson and his cronies, just that they are generally held to account by people with ridiculous levels of pomposity and perceived indignance when dealing with matters of etiquette and titles in comparison to other media outlets.
I have also reapplied to go to University so I can join the NUS with the view to becoming a swashbuckling national president by 2025, a Special Advisor by 2027 and an MP in a safe seat by 2030, (which will be a packed evening before the Nine o'clock news, I THANK YOW!!!!)
That would be solid gold for the right wing press.
As others suggest above, the media will act the cunt whatever Starmer does.
I don't recall Lennon or Benn's careers ending post gong return
As a child, I was told repeatedly (most often by my lifelong Labour mother) that I must defer to the Monarchy/ Church/ Orange Order/ whoever, and more importantly to adults indignant at any criticism of them. I laughed and ignored her
Years later I was chided at work for drafting a letter for my boss to send to the Duke of Norfolk. "No, I've been polite and respectful. To me he's Mr Howard until he invites me to call him Greville"
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