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    Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post

    As Owen Hatherley has pointed out, this puts Big Labour to to right of the right of the Scottish and Welsh Govt on right to buy, and Khan in London on rent controls. Genius, forensic stuff.

    maybe buy to let landlord "for ma pinshin" fuckers are an important demographic for NuNuLabour.
    Hard not to conclude that some of the policy is driven by certain shadow cabinet members not wanting to risk missing out on a job in the private sector once the next election goes tits up.

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      Apparently Coyle was well known in westminster for abusive texts

      oddly no-one got around to mentioning it till now

      https://twitter.com/JoanaRamiroUK/status/1301850731595661320?s=20

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        Great to have a committed European as head of UK Labour, unlike that shilly-shallying 7 out of 10 Corbyn

        Starmer will be unequivocally committed to retaining UK rights for EU Citizens.

        Keir?

        Keir?

        https://twitter.com/Another_Europe/status/1302527841796599808?s=20

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          He didn't sign it, but his inaction was forensic.

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            https://twitter.com/mattzarb/status/1303393443297755136?s=21

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              Remember it was Labour who started this immigration issue after they fucked up by allowing free movement for new member states. Of course the Tories joined in happily but Blair properly unleashed the race card and the hostile environment.

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                Free movement is and was the right thing to do. It's not any excuse for Labour's lurch further towards racist immigration rhetoric and practice.

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                  That Matt Zarb-Cousin tweet, and the Starmer quote within it, are quite something. If I've understood correctly, that shows both wings of the Labour Party taking the "we've left, get over it" line. Difficult not to despair at that, given the catastrophe which is about to be unleashed on us from crashing out of the transition period with no deal.

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                    Ed Davey is taking the same line- and opposing campaigning to rejoin too

                    https://twitter.com/TheNewEuropean/status/1301908236313001987?s=20

                    We have left. We might both think it's the wrong thing to do but remaining is no longer a feasible position.

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                      I disagree with you on the way forward re Brexit, Nef, but fair point re Ed Davey, the useless suit*. "Listening", FFS. I'm mulling over cancelling my Lib Dem membership, as I only joined because they, unlike Labour, were unequivocally committed to fighting against Brexit. But given my local circumstances in S Cambs - arsehole new Tory MP replacing the lovely Heidi Allen, with the Lib Dems only 3,000 votes behind at the last GE, so that I think the LDs here have the best chance of unseating said arsehole - I will probably stay, just because it is vital to campaign against this government of corrupt gangsters who are destroying our country even if the alternatives are massively sub-optimal.

                      * I voted for Moran in the leadership election.

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                        The point is that Remain and the avoidance of Hard Brexit was the issue used to smash the previous Leader over the head for two years until he finally gave in, at which point his chances of winning disappeared and said ardent Remainers suddenly found that they had other, more pressing issues to deal with. I mean "Corbyn is secretly a Leaver and doesn't want to fight to Remain because he wants Hard Brexit" was practically a meme.

                        Personally, I'd keep hammering on pointing out the lies (that bus has disappeared down the memory hole) and that it is going to be a complete shitshow because they have no plan, but that is just me.

                        I agree with you on Davey. I thought that the EU was - until now obviously - one of the defining cornerstones of the Lib Dems. Someone needs to keep pushing that this is all a complete fuckup. It's easy enough to label them Yellow Tories as it is without dropping the major differentiator.

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                          This analysis, from Former Corbyn staffer Andrew Fisher is worth reading

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                            However this is all very disheartening

                            https://twitter.com/clientjournoexp/status/1305074984394657793?s=21

                            as is this

                            https://twitter.com/shirleymush/status/1305114628788285440?s=21

                            and indeed , this

                            https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1305115187922571264?s=21
                            Last edited by Nefertiti2; 13-09-2020, 12:25.

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                              Starmer has had a test for Covid and is self-isolating as someone in his family has needed a test. This means he will miss Brexit debate.

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                                How convenient.

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                                  Bordeaux, the debates has happened. Miliband stood in, and by most accounts did a very good job.

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                                    He's got around 65000 people currently liking an excerpt of his speech https://twitter.com/Ed_Miliband/stat...52766019006469 although I liked this bit better https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1305549526032412673

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                                      I wonder how Stamer felt, watching his replacement on the telly showing a hell of a lot more backbone than he himself has at any point this year.

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                                        If only Ed had shown that same level of decisiveness when he had the opportunity

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                                          Originally posted by ooh aah View Post
                                          If only Ed had shown that same level of decisiveness when he had the opportunity
                                          See Missed Opportunities thread.

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                                            https://twitter.com/ta_mills/status/1307241885317111810?s=21

                                            will be an emphasis on patriotism.

                                            And the content is likely to be influenced by the Labour leader's director of policy Claire Ainsley, former head of the Joseph Rowntree Foundation think tank and author of the New Working Class.

                                            She has said values espoused by "working-class" voters span the Remain/Leave divide and can be summarised thus: "Family, fairness, hard work and decency", or as one commentator put it, "flag, forces, family".

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                                              "the brand has been trashed"

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                                                Just fuckin give up on Scotland then yis fannies. Fuck rallying around that dirty flag.

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                                                  He visited Walsall FC today. They were playing away so competence points docked for not checking the fixture list before setting out.

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                                                    Honestly? That sounds bizarrely incompetent.

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