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Sir Keir Starmer - Labour Party Leader
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He's been busy supporting the government again, this time about punishing dissent.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58980384
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Originally posted by Gas In Name Only View PostThe worst and most corrosive hate is published daily by named journalists, often with their photos attached. Maybe go after them first before targeting people who answer back on Twitter
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Just catching up with the Labour thread and, my, does it make a predictably depressing read. I suppose Leftists of various shades ought to consider the glimmer of hope the Corbyn years gave of just a teeny bit of socialism as the unexpected anomaly, mind, and now it’s back to business as usual as utter let-downs from the “sensible pragmatists”. Sir Keir and his crew wont be upsetting any applecarts or offering any material changes, will they?
At least Drakeford’s Welsh Labour machine is still in reasonable shape right now. Small mercies and all that.
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Sir Keir and his crew wont be upsetting any applecarts or offering any material changes, will they?
But what infuriates me about Starmer and his cronies, and makes me despise him with a passion, isn't mainly his failure to have left wing policies or to treat the left fairly. It's the double whammy of his failure to have ANY F**KING POLICIES AT ALL, left, centre or any other kind, and, above all, his pathetic spineless failure to call the Government to account (properly or, in many respects, at all) on their criminal corruption, their perversion of democracy or their lethal libertarian recklessness on COVID. In other words, his failure to provide any kind of meaningful sodding opposition at a time when, more than any other in our history, strong opposition is desperately needed.
Edit: also, of course, his failure to be honest about the damage being caused by Brexit. And his failure to represent the poorest sections of our society, leaving that kind of thing to Marcus Rashford and others.Last edited by Evariste Euler Gauss; 21-10-2021, 16:09.
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With Covid, I could see the logic - in March 2020 - of not going in gung-ho against the government, when everyone was getting to grips with unprecedented circumstances. But now, after 18 months of incompetence, callousness, corruption and chaos, to be uttering bullshit platitudes like "we're not in favour of moving to plan B, we're in favour of making plan A work" just defies logic. Total thoughtless, complacent election-losing rubbish
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Originally posted by Evariste Euler Gauss View Post
But what infuriates me about Starmer and his cronies, and makes me despise him with a passion, isn't mainly his failure to have left wing policies or to treat the left fairly. It's the double whammy of his failure to have ANY F**KING POLICIES AT ALL, left, centre or any other kind, and, above all, his pathetic spineless failure to call the Government to account (properly or, in many respects, at all) on their criminal corruption, their perversion of democracy or their lethal libertarian recklessness on COVID. In other words, his failure to provide any kind of meaningful sodding opposition at a time when, more than any other in our history, strong opposition is desperately needed.
Edit: also, of course, his failure to be honest about the damage being caused by Brexit. And his failure to represent the poorest sections of our society, leaving that kind of thing to Marcus Rashford and others.
And it seems like he is a git as well. A softly spoken well-heeled git. But still a git.
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In the last year or so when I was at Melody Maker, there was a change of editor and a change of editorial direction. Melody Maker, the editor sternly announced at his first editorial meeting would from now on be more "fun". This would mean, effectively, turning it into an inky Smash Hits, a tactic with which MM had briefly flirted in the early 1980s, to near-disastrous effect. Still, made sense. Smash Hits was popular. We needed readers. Smash Hits has readers. Let's just do what Smash Hits does. And so it came to pass. Only nobody, but nobody wanted an inky Smash Hits, because they already had the actual Smash Hits. No one, but no one, was saying, "Hey, why are you still reading Smash Hits the magazine? Me and all my cool mates are turned onto the big inky version now."
Labour under Starmer is attempting a similar strategy to MM, prior to it folding in 2000.
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and yet don't seem to care that they thus attract absolutely nobody.
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So, this data-blocking "cyber incident", then. A couple of interesting tweets from people who either were no longer, or never have been, Labour members, reporting that they'd received the email from Labour saying that their data may be among the stuff affected. Which invites questions about how much data-trawling David Evans's Kangaroo Court Thinly Masquerading As A Political Party. I pretty much take for granted that Labour HQ has screenshotted every single tweet ever posted by every member, but some interesting stuff could emerge from this.
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- Jan 2012
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- The Hammers, until Mark Noble goes.(he's still there, sort of)
- Garibaldi, dipped in tea.
I got this (ex-member, 12 months) but the Party's Privacy Policy clearly states that data can be given to third parties. I've seen lots of angry/surprised tweets about this, but so far haven't seen anyone going into detail about why this is a breach. https://labour.org.uk/privacy-policy/#4
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Originally posted by johnr View PostI got this (ex-member, 12 months) but the Party's Privacy Policy clearly states that data can be given to third parties. I've seen lots of angry/surprised tweets about this, but so far haven't seen anyone going into detail about why this is a breach. https://labour.org.uk/privacy-policy/#4
The suspicion - not borne out - is that it might have been used to cross-reference against social media accounts in order to identify undesirables.
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