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    I've come to the conclusion - and forgive me using some technical language here - that Starmer is a useless piece of shit.

    You get this searing insight for free, you know.

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      I suppose to be fair even Priti patel hasn’t yet convened midnight courts to imprison teenagers fir 6 months fir stealing a bottle of water.
      but she’s only just begun

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        Why do Labour think that a rise in yobbery is due to police numbers being cut under austerity rather than all the other stuff being cut under austerity?

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            https://twitter.com/FreeNorthNow/status/1380159628739219463?s=20

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              These stats are rather extraordinary

              https://twitter.com/flying_rodent/status/1380196073566838787?s=21

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                https://twitter.com/liamyoung/status/1380119148051718145?s=21

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                  Writers like Beckett pull their punches a bit when writing for The Guardian but the point is clear enough. https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-jeremy-corbyn

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                    Apropos of nothing...

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                      Originally posted by wingco View Post
                      Writers like Beckett pull their punches a bit when writing for The Guardian but the point is clear enough. https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-jeremy-corbyn
                      A quote from the above;

                      "Ainsley portrays today’s British working class as large and politically pivotal but also “disparate”, “atomised” and increasingly employed in low-paid, insecure, service-sector jobs – a class transformed “over the past 40 years” by deindustrialisation, the polarisation of incomes and the decline of trade unions."

                      If this written bwasy a Starmer advisor that's been in post for a year why hasn't this kind of thinking been informing the party's public interactions? Why are they talking up law and order rather than continually banging on about the effect of the market economy and deindustrialisation? Especially when the processes that brought us the market economy and deindustrialisation were started by the decisions of human beings. Still it's nice to see the peoples' party finally adopt the sort of analysis that an undergraduate from an ex-polytechnic could have made 2 decades ago.
                      Last edited by Kowalski; 09-04-2021, 13:09.

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                        Because the little scrotes who work for the Labour Party don’t want Labour to win

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                          starmer would bore the shite out of anyone

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                            https://twitter.com/squires_david/status/1380439173081956353

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                              Beaten to it.
                              Last edited by Sean of the Shed; 09-04-2021, 11:29.

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                                More "surprising revelations about who is on whose ignore list"

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                                  Saw it mentioned on twitter this morning that 61% of Labour members are satisfied with Starmer's performance, according to a YouGov poll. Seems surprisingly high.

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                                    The "decline of trade unions" took place over a period that included 13 years of a Labour government which seemed quite happy with that trend.

                                    Nef, I'm not sure about the scrotes wanting Labour to lose, if by that you mean permanently lose. They surely would want power in the long run but only as a Tory-lite party, which they would be happy to spend a decade in opposition creating.

                                    I'm sure the leadership always knew the working class was fragmenting but it assumed those people would not vote Tory so could be ignored in favour of the middle class whom Blair attracted and coveted. The idea they'd vote fascist, and the Tories would go after the fascist vote, never occured to them because they still thought of the Tories as John Major's party not Norman Tebbit's.
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                                      Originally posted by ad hoc View Post
                                      More "surprising revelations about who is on whose ignore list"
                                      Thought I'd better edit it in case you were worried about your own status.

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                                        I heard Keir Starmer on the radio today. I don't think I'd actually heard him speak before. He sounds uncanny like a fake voice programmed to read out type.

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                                          See also Miliband, E.

                                          Clearly it has been determined by some focus group that a Labour leader should never sound as if he believes what he is saying for fear of coming across as slightly threatening.
                                          Last edited by Snake Plissken; 10-04-2021, 07:23.

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                                            Have we noted that shitface has decreed the UK media "not racist" over its Meghan coverage?
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                                              Originally posted by TonTon View Post
                                              Have we notes that shitface has decreed the UK media "not racist" over its Meghan coverage?
                                              Got to win back the Stoke Gammon demographic

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                                                https://twitter.com/stevenicksmith/status/1381225713131487233?s=21

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                                                  This is the key point from Beckett's piece, and something chancers like Cruddas (along with most of the PLP and commentariat) don't want to address because of their mass gaslighting campaign towards a key part of Labour's vote:
                                                  But Cruddas’s book undermines itself by misrepresenting who the modern British left actually are. “Young urban educated cosmopolitan winners,” he writes, have “replaced the workers” as the left’s priority and main source of support. But today these urban radicals often are the workers: making drinks all day in cafes, riding delivery bikes in the rain. They may be well educated and cosmopolitan, but with poor wages and no job security, bad rented housing and student debt, they’re not our economy’s “winners”. Those are more likely to be found in what politicians and the media still reverently call the traditional working class – for example, the retired, formerly Labour-supporting property owners of the red wall.

                                                  Such new realities may be difficult for the Labour right to accept, having assumed for decades that the voters who matter are relatively conservative homeowners rather than 25-year-olds with blue hair. But Britain has changed a lot since Blairism’s glory days. And without a clear sense of those changes, Labour is doomed to continuing electoral underperformance, neither rightwing enough to take votes from the Tories nor radical enough to prevent defections to the Greens or leftwing Britons simply refusing to vote.

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                                                    Originally posted by E10 Rifle View Post
                                                    This is the key point from Beckett's piece, and something chancers like Cruddas (along with most of the PLP and commentariat) don't want to address because of their mass gaslighting campaign towards a key part of Labour's vote:
                                                    was ironic to read couple of the younger centrist journalists complaining how they would never be able to afford a place of their own and how much their landlord was making from them -given they had worked so hard to smother the electoral chances of the only political movement they are likely to see in their lifetime with a commitment to do something about it (and some chance of getting elected)
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