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    I've got a bad feeling about the mood surrounding the enforced lockdowns, and the Manchester standoff. It just feels like that tinderbox moment in 2010, was it, that all began as a protest about police handling of an incident but then really wasn't about that and just became a release valve for a week of rioting and looting.

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      Originally posted by Rogin the Armchair fan View Post
      I've got a bad feeling about the mood surrounding the enforced lockdowns, and the Manchester standoff. It just feels like that tinderbox moment in 2010, was it, that all began as a protest about police handling of an incident but then really wasn't about that and just became a release valve for a week of rioting and looting.
      One big difference is that was in the middle of an August heatwave. Far too cold to sustain much rioting currently.

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        Originally posted by Rogin the Armchair fan View Post
        I've got a bad feeling about the mood surrounding the enforced lockdowns, and the Manchester standoff. It just feels like that tinderbox moment in 2010, was it, that all began as a protest about police handling of an incident but then really wasn't about that and just became a release valve for a week of rioting and looting.
        Yep and there are quite a few places where a police action to close down a business might be a riot waiting to happen...

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          Personally, I didn't really see much rioting because I was living off green lanes then and all the local Turkish guys just stood outside their shops, very quietly, and very pointedly holding baseball bats, so all the rioters veered off towards Tottenham. I did hear some sort of explosion at, I think it was a Tottenham recycling plant.

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            Originally posted by Balderdasha View Post

            One big difference is that was in the middle of an August heatwave. Far too cold to sustain much rioting currently.
            We are talking about Manchester, a bit of shit weather is not an issue plus early darkness will help, much harder to police a night...

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              Originally posted by Moonlight Shadow View Post

              We are talking about Manchester, a bit of shit weather is not an issue plus early darkness will help, much harder to police a night...
              Very true. And everyone will be rioting without a coat, probably in shorts and miniskirts.

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                21,331 new cases in the UK today, first time new cases have broken through the 20,000 mark.

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                  Also, and in many ways more concerningly, 241 deaths in the UK today.

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                    The last time deaths were that high was around the beginning of June.

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                      948 deaths in the UK in the last week from Covid-19.

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                        Turkey has exceeded 350,000 cases and has recorded 9,445 deaths.

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                          Canada has exceeded 200,000 cases and recorded 9,792 deaths.

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                            Originally posted by Rogin the Armchair fan View Post
                            I've got a bad feeling about the mood surrounding the enforced lockdowns, and the Manchester standoff. It just feels like that tinderbox moment in 2010, was it, that all began as a protest about police handling of an incident but then really wasn't about that and just became a release valve for a week of rioting and looting.
                            i'm more concerned about the people who are going to die of CoVID or malnutrition

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                              127,622 new cases in the UK in the last week. Or equivalent to everyone in Solihull being infected in one go.

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                                https://twitter.com/WvSchaik/status/1318626553690021893?s=20

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                                  Originally posted by Balderdasha View Post

                                  Very true. And everyone will be rioting without a coat, probably in shorts and miniskirts.
                                  Yer average scally looks like a hiker nowadays, all Rab trousers, North Face rain jackets and footwear that would suit a hill walk...

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                                    Wait, Boris is forcing a lockdown on Manchester. I thought only socialists did that?

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                                      1,148 cases in Wales today and 10 deaths. Yesterday's low figures definitely the weekend timelag.

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                                        Yesterday, Europe had more than double the number of new cases that North America had.

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                                          We reached 41 million cases late last night. The last million took three days again, despite being over a weekend.

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                                            Tier 3Lockdown it is, Donny, Barnsley, Sheffield, Rotherham from 00:01 Saturday

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                                              Originally posted by Guy Profumo View Post
                                              Tier 3Lockdown it is, Donny, Barnsley, Sheffield, Rotherham from 00:01 Saturday
                                              KLF earworm

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                                                Romania's numbers of new cases jump each week (usually Wednesday's figures, which represent Tuesday's numbers) are the big leap, and today is no exception - 4848 as compared with 4016 a week ago and just under 3000 the previous week. I can;t see these numbers coming under control anytime soon. there appears to be zero effort to do test and trace, and other measures are being partly ignored. This county has just announced that masks must be worn in all public spaces, including outside. Hope this makes a difference

                                                There is almost no-one I know round here that hasn't been affected. Loads of friends or family members of friends have been in hospital. And hospital sounds grim, so a lot of people with mild symptoms are not even bothering to get tested, so try and avoid being pressured to go in. The numbers must be at least 5 times the official ones.

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                                                  Slovakia did really well in the early phase of this - almost too well to be true - but cases are likewise going up alarmingly again. Restaurant/bar interiors are now closed, as are secondary schools and universities. All football bar the top division has stopped, and the top division is behind closed doors.

                                                  The government's latest plan is to give the entire population a free antigen test over three weekends, starting this weekend in some of the worst affected regions. There are shades here of the Sunday work in Orwell's Animal Farm (strictly voluntary, but any animal who absented himself was put on half rations) in that the test is free and optional, but if you don't have it, you'll have to self-isolate. It will be carried out at polling stations, with people given a time-slot according to where their names fall in the alphabet. It doesn't seem a terrible idea in essence, but could well be one huge logistical nightmare. I'm also wondering what will happen if, say one in eight people are found to be infected, which some estimates say could be the case.

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                                                    The "fire break" in Wales may prevent I'm a Celebrity from being filmed.

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