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    Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View Post
    There's a theory doing the rounds on Trump saying "Everyone wants to go back to normal" is that he simply doesn't want to be associated with either the disease or the lockdowns but does want to be associated with the recovery. If he keeps his hands out of all the preventative measures, he thinks he won't get any blame. But because he's calling for early roll-back he wants to get the credit for the feel-good of the roll-back.

    The trouble with his reasoning is that some states run by complete idiots appear to be taking him at his word. Most particularly Ron de Santis in Florida. Florida has still not had any proper stay-at-home orders that I've seen yet. I fear that Florida (and perhaps Texas and the gulf coast in general) are going to be grim illustrations of the stupidity of Trump's approach, even if the disease is in retreat in California and New York by the time that Trump's Easter deadline comes around.
    I don't think he wants the -20% GDP quarter in 2Q20 going into an election and easily labeled a catastrophe.

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      Originally posted by hobbes View Post
      Got this from the local shopping centre:-
      Wht the actual fuck? At a huge huge push, I suppose one could defend Time4Pets.
      At a huge, huge push, pets should be allowed to eat too.

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        Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post

        are you in a Union Arturo and are your colleagues

        Because if the governement is texting the entire country telling them to stay at home then legally it's quite hard for an employer to insist your colleagues should come to work

        https://twitter.com/ShellyAsquith/status/1242429542029017089?s=20
        What of those who are not in the union because they thought it was anachronistic and the destroyer of British industry?

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          Originally posted by Janik View Post
          Another key statistic demonstrating exponential rise to people, and why the relatively low numbers to date are utterly misleading of the final scale of this, was that the rise from the first case to the 100,000th took 67 days. Cases 100,001-200,000 came in an 11 day spell. 200,001-300,000 took just 4 (up to yesterday).

          Numbers as reported by the WHO.
          And 300,001-400,000 just one day, by the looks of it.

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            Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post

            Supplements are just a recipe for expensive urine. Anyone who eats potatoes need never take a vitamin C pill.
            The obesity crisis described in a single sentence.

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              This looks worth sharing


              an app app where you can self report symptoms for research

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                Boiled potatoes have no connection with obesity - it's the addition of butter, milk, oil etc when frying or mashing them that is the issue.

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                  Originally posted by hobbes View Post

                  There's not great evidence that supplements do any good with the exception of B and D vitamins which you can get from going outside and eating some bran flakes.
                  Besides vitamins etc. can be bought at real pharmacies and supermarkets.
                  There's a reason H&B's motto is "stultus et eorum pecuniam sunt, mox dividitur" and it's something do with their £50 jars of honey.
                  B12 is pretty good especially if you are vegan or an older person.

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                    Originally posted by caja-dglh View Post

                    At a huge, huge push, pets should be allowed to eat too.
                    Chuck em outside and let them fend for themselves. They are wild animals after all.

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                      Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
                      Boiled potatoes have no connection with obesity - it's the addition of butter, milk, oil etc when frying or mashing them that is the issue.
                      Sir that is not true.
                      https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutriti...with-potatoes/

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                        Originally posted by Lurgee View Post

                        As long as you buy a sensible (i.e. expensive) one they should escape injury. My spawn have been happil bouncing for about 8 years without any maimings (that said, their cousin managed to hurt himself on it almost immediately because he decided to descent the step ladder facing outwards rather than in and inevitably slipped ... but he is a complete tool, as his own father admits).

                        Criteria for a good tramp:

                        - Netting
                        - Poles that support the netting are bent, so there is more give and they won't bang into poles
                        - springs covered

                        Good tramp: https://www.jumpflex.co.nz/products/...RoCG5YQAvD_BwE

                        Deathtrap: https://www.fitness.co.nz/media/cata...poline_1_2.jpg
                        My daughter suffered ligament damage on a monkey puzzle trampoline a couple of years ago while at the same time next doors little girl had a fracture on their back garden set up.

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                          Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post
                          That link doesn't actually disprove DR's point.

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                            Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post
                            Chuck em outside and let them fend for themselves. They are wild animals after all.
                            They are descended from wild animals. But they are not wild themselves. For instance, only 10% of abandoned domestic cats successfully transition to feral. The rest are dead within a month, due to injury or starvation or both. And cats have one of the highest rates of adaptation of former pets.
                            These domestic animals bear no responsibility for who they are and where they are. Humans put them there and humans can't wash their hands of the situation they created just because it has become inconvenient and a bit dangerous for them.

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                              Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post

                              Chuck em outside and let them fend for themselves. They are wild animals after all.
                              Domesticated rabbits would die within 24 hours.

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                                Originally posted by Fussbudget View Post

                                That link doesn't actually disprove DR's point.
                                Food with a high glycemic index are not good (unless just before or immediately after strenuous exercise) and can cause obesity (as well as being bad for diabetes sufferers).

                                They are great for energy, but there are better things to be eating with out western sedentary lifestyle.


                                Hence why we are advised to eat more brown Rice/Pasta instead of it's white variety.

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                                  Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post

                                  The obesity crisis described in a single sentence.
                                  It depends on how many you eat. You really don't need many to get your required amount.

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                                    Originally posted by Janik View Post
                                    They are descended from wild animals. But they are not wild themselves. For instance, only 10% of abandoned domestic cats successfully transition to feral. The rest are dead within a month, due to injury or starvation or both. And cats have one of the highest rates of adaptation of former pets.
                                    These domestic animals bear no responsibility for who they are and where they are. Humans put them there and humans can't wash their hands of the situation they created just because it has become inconvenient and a bit dangerous for them.
                                    Fair enough, my thoughts on the concept of pets are well known on here so I'll stop so I don't offend people.

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                                      Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post

                                      It depends on how many you eat. You really don't need many to get your required amount.
                                      Required amount of what?

                                      Potatoes are popular because they can grow in shit soil and the tubars pack a lot of energy in such a small size which was great 200 years ago when most of our ancestors were slaves or indentured labourers.

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                                        Originally posted by hobbes View Post
                                        Got this from the local shopping centre:-



                                        Wht the actual fuck? At a huge huge push, I suppose one could defend Time4Pets.
                                        But there is no leap of imagination that I'm capable of that could lead me to entertain the vaguest comprehension that Holland and fucking Barratt, snake oil purveyors extraordinaire could be considered essential goods and services in a medical fucking emergency.
                                        Jesus, hobbes, pets have to eat too. Just because you hate them doesn't mean they aren't important, especially now when they may be the only contact with another living being that a person has.

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                                          Italy has enhanced penalties for those who violate the restrictions.

                                          Patients with the virus who break quarantine can now be jailed for up to five years (presumably after they recover), while fines for more minor violations can now reach 3000 euro per incident.

                                          As the lines of traffic to get on ferries continue to grow, Sicilians are getting increasingly annoyed at mainlanders who are trying to "escape" to the island. The mayor of Messina is threatening to interview each new arrival to determine whether they are in fact Sicilian residents.
                                          Last edited by ursus arctos; 24-03-2020, 23:22.

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                                            Originally posted by caja-dglh View Post

                                            At a huge, huge push, pets should be allowed to eat too.
                                            You're right. It's basically impossible to find whole aisles of pet foods in more or less every supermarket in the country.

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                                              Originally posted by hobbes View Post

                                              You're right. It's basically impossible to find whole aisles of pet foods in more or less every supermarket in the country.
                                              Leave it son, you have seen the 1000 page pet thread, This is a touch crowd.

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                                                Originally posted by Femme Folle View Post

                                                Jesus, hobbes, pets have to eat too. Just because you hate them doesn't mean they aren't important, especially now when they may be the only contact with another living being that a person has.
                                                I'm sorry if that bugged you but I wasn't suggesting that pets should starve. As I pointed out to DLGH every major supermarket carries a ton of pet supplies. That's what I meant. It doesn't need a dedicated shop that mainly sells scratch posts and hamster cages to have to be open and staffed any more than a specialist delicatessen needs to be.

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                                                  Supermarket pet food is junk. I would feed my dog and cats human food before I would give them supermarket pet food.

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                                                    Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post

                                                    You are not serious are you?

                                                    H&B sell alot of minerals and vitamins as well as other stuff that are good for your health and well being?
                                                    I think it's fairer to say that the effects of withdrawing a placebo are as real as withdrawing access to an actual medicine. I had to bite my tongue when my mam was going into a healthfood shop after we'd already decided to go into 'isolation' a fortnight ago. But it really wasn't worth it, and would have been a very bad way to start several weeks in confinement. My capacity to absorb food is severely impaired, because of radically reduced gut transit times, and a big bit removed, and I have to regularly have all of these minerals and vitamins levels tested, and aside from an occasional shortage of folic acid, I'm broadly speaking grand, even though my diet, is not good.. I asked the doctor how this was, and she told me that the modern food industry may give you diabetes with hidden sugar, blood pressure with salt, and obesity with high levels of fat, and large portion sizes,, but you are going to struggle to be deficient in minerals and vitamins unless you have an underlying condition, which needs to be treated directly. If I needed to take something specifically, she would give me prescription for what I needed, which I would then get for free. It's difficult to avoid eating more than your requirement of vitamin C. It's used as an anti-oxidant in the food industry. It's a big part of what keeps crisps crisp.

                                                    I can't wait to go back up to Dublin.

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