Poll: Irish general election edition

[anton pulisov]

Dr Tony is on the Late Late show AGAIN! When Tubridy gets his head out of his arse he might ask him about the Cervical test disaster, and why dying women have to sue the state for compensation that they're morally due. Alternatively, he could ask why NPHET needs 27 members, and what bonuses they are on. Or else, how about, when Covid was in single figures, plans weren't put in place for a proper track and trace system for the surge that you knew was coming.

Now, now, his people are back in charge again, he can't be asking those kinds of things

[anton pulisov]

And the chief medical officer of the Republic of Ireland stood by and said nothing. Donnelly is an uber cnut no doubt, but Honohan being treated like some kind of hero and getting the freedom of Dublin is a joke as well.

Could be worse though, Ireland could be the incompetent mess that is Sweden or the Netherlands

Bet you never thought anybody would say that

[Diable Rouge]

The Greens vote with FF and FG to seal Mother and Baby Homes archives for 30 years.

Petition now reaches 125,000 signatures.

[elguapo4]

The presidents of the Greens Youth and Gay sections have resigned. Obviously being in government isn't as much fun as they thought.

[Diable Rouge]

A remarkable FF tail-off within eight months:

https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1320333569156390912

[DCI Harry Batt]

I thought this one was kinda interesting:

https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1319791682330689536?s=20

[Diable Rouge]

The left parties in particular have been vocal in relation to greater testing at airports and more effective tracing measures, so unsurprising that they are most supportive, but a bit strange that FF are more sceptical than FG. As for the far-right, they've never even registered 1% in an opinion poll, so 13% of virtually nothing is hardly worth mentioning.

[Duncan Gardner]

The Greens also voted with FG and FF against further postponement of evictions, I think?

Ireland is not the only country where Greens have folded like paper once they join a coalition. This fact makes me very reluctant to vote for them in the UK.

So you're reluctant to vote Green in London because Greens in 2 or 3 other countries have sold out?

[Duncan Gardner]

I get the impression Eamon Ryan doesn't give a fuck about poverty or housing or anything but the Climate Bill that will probably be only half arsedly implemented before the Govt falls and the Irish Greens are back in oblivion. And it's a bill so shite and milquetoast aspirational it basically takes Ireland in seven years to where Scotland is now and if we are very lucky we might meet the obligations we signed up to with the EU.

We all predicted last time that the Greens would return to oblivion post Coalition. Not a terminal problem if everyone else does too

[DCI Harry Batt]

So you're reluctant to vote Green in London because Greens in 2 or 3 other countries have sold out?

Everywhere they've ever been in office, as it goes. With many E&W Greens among those justifying it, every time. But yeah it's not a lot of places, I guess.

[Nefertiti2]

Joschka Fischer was Foreign Minister in Germany in coalition with the Blairite Gerhard Schroeder (but even more corrupt if anything) and successfully kept Germany out of the Iraq War.

[DCI Harry Batt]

Fischer was a bit of a lefty when he was young, wasn't he?

[Nefertiti2]

Yup

n 1967, he became active in the German student movement and left-wing movement (post-) 1968 (the so-called Spontis), first in Stuttgart and after 1968 in Frankfurt am Main. For his regular income, Fischer took several low-wage jobs, such as working in a left-wing bookstore in Frankfurt. During this period, he began attending university events, including lectures organized by left-wing revolutionary students by Theodor W. Adorno, J?rgen Habermas and Oskar Negt.^[4] He studied the works of Marx, Mao and Hegel and became a member of the militant group, Revolution?rer Kampf (Revolutionary Struggle). Fischer was a leader in several street battles involving the radical Putzgruppe (literally "cleaning squad", with the first syllable being an acronym for Proletarische Union f?r Terror und Zerst?rung, "Proletarian Union for Terror and Destruction"), which attacked a number of police officers. Photos of one such brawl in March 1973, which were later to haunt Fischer, show him clubbing policeman Rainer Marx,^[5] to whom he later publicly apologized.

Fischer is a close friend of Daniel Cohn-Bendit, whom he met during that time. In 1971, he began working for the car manufacturer Opel and attempted to organise his fellow workers for the coming communist revolution. (This was not organising on behalf of a regular labour union: the vast majority of Opel's workers had already been organised for decades by IG Metall, the German metalworkers' union.) This resulted in his dismissal from the company after six months. Fischer then continued making a living with unskilled work while continuing his activism. He worked as a taxi driver from 1976 to 1981 and later in a bookstore in Frankfurt.

In the Deutscher Herbst (German autumn) of 1977, Germany was rattled by a series of left-wing terrorist attacks by the Red Army Faction (RAF) and Revolutionary Cells (RZ). According to Fischer's own account, witnessing these events, particularly the kidnapping and murder of Hanns-Martin Schleyer and the Entebbe hijacking,^[6][7] made him renounce violence as a means for political change. Instead, he became involved in the new social movements and later in the newly founded Green Party, mainly in the state of Hesse.

[john the revelator]

Greens flouncing off cos they don't like the compromises of power is pathetic

They deprive the party of alternative voices, no wonder Ryan remains in charge when all the internal opposition quit the party and leave him with a clear field of his appointees as supporters.

[DCI Harry Batt]

I hope they all leave, and he's the last one, on his own. Anyone half-decent would oppose these "compromises of power" as you euphemistically put it.

[john the revelator]

Total surrender will hardly bring about much reform

[Diable Rouge]

Sinn Fein in populist shocker:

https://twitter.com/NextIrishGE/status/1321258848431341577

[delicatemoth]

So you're reluctant to vote Green in London because Greens in 2 or 3 other countries have sold out?

As TonTon points out, it's a pattern. And the Irish Greens actually made the difference in both the abovementioned votes, which I thought was a big enough deal to be worth highlighting.

[Diable Rouge]

https://twitter.com/McConnellDaniel/status/1321521487896076290

Even though said AG was the one who resisted publishing the records last week.

[Lang Spoon]

It's about time AGs are treated as political whores and not founts of wisdom.

[john the revelator]

Excellent article in the Irish Times about the Mother & Baby Homes report and the need for anonymity that was required to get witnesses to come forward.
Without that, there would have been no report and the commissions would have been mired in legal action.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/n...omes-1.4393548

[Duncan Gardner]

As TonTon points out, it's a pattern. And the Irish Greens actually made the difference in both the abovementioned votes, which I thought was a big enough deal to be worth highlighting.

Morning DM. Briefly

1 Agreed it's worth highlighting as very significant in Ireland

2 As TT also acknow'd, the pattern is from a very small sample. Problem for Greens globally is that we win so rarely at national level before ever getting into a position for embarrassing public sell-out...

3 You'll remember that in my home town Belfast, the local Greens were mainly opposed to joining the Coalition. What do they think they are, a separate country?

(Without name dropping too far, local leaderene Clare Bailey was a bit miffed at my patter when she was guest of honour at a recent Midlands Greens do on Zoom. I mentioned that on last trip home, I was strolling the riverbank when something rushed past covered in feathers and going "Quack quack".

"Hello, are ye a duck?"

"No, I'm running away from the UDA"

[Diable Rouge]

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1322524177786638341

[Diable Rouge]

Full article here.

[Diable Rouge]

https://twitter.com/VillageMagIRE/status/1322594668291514369