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    zip over to thailand and we'll cycle down the west coast to KL.

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      Originally posted by Moonlight shadow View Post
      Tony, a stone in 45 days mean you need to cut your calorie intake, a lot...it's feasible but you will have to zap a lot of things and be much stricter with yourself. Your motivation is a good as any.
      Indeed, I will have to discover previously untapped levels of self denial. But I actually want to do it, so that's a start.

      About a year ago I lost a stone at least (which I later put back on) when I contracted quite a severe chest infection and I just lost the enjoyment out of eating and ate very little for anout three weeks without pining for food at all. I now look upon that time with great fondness.

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        My own Plan would be as follow (I'm assuming you are retired btw...)

        - Get a wrist HRM - a Fitbit Charge will do the trick and does not cost too much
        - Start recording your calories intake (if anything, it will show you one of the great truism of weight loss, we underestimate how much we eat, we overestimate how much we burn excercising...)
        - As you live in Wainwright country, find yourself one or a number of good hikes. No need for stupidly hard things, a 8ish miles on undulating terrain will burn rather more than you think and go hiking. Every day, without fail...No need to speed walk, keep an eye on your HRM and ensure you stay within your fat burning zone (the HRM will tell you that information re your zones).

        The HRM will record your calories burn, you can keep tabs on your intake and ensure you stay under by 500 calories. You'll be hungry all the times but you will lose weight...

        What you eat is your prerogative but I would advise to essentially forget about cheese and chocolate except in homeopathic doses.

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          MS, thanks for this, I will buy a HRM and take your advice.

          Sadly I'm not retired - still teaching three days a week. But if I make my working days my 'gym days' and the other four my hiking/walking days then I can adapt.

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            Sounds like a plan! Try to keep the calorie intake/calorie burn curve quite close up until tea time so that you can function normally, especially if you hike/exercise. When the evening arrives, it's when you need to cut out more, you are at home, you won't need much energy so you can starve your body a bit...

            I'm going through a re-think of my own plan at the moment (improving the nutrition pie chart...) and not eating after 8pm is on the cards, as it means 12 hours until my next meal then which gives my liver work to do with my fat rather than just burn new fuel because I'm eating.

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              Have I mentioned how impressed I am by Lobachevsky's cycling. I'm pretty jealous, apart from the food poisoning side of things.

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                Originally posted by Tony C View Post
                MS, thanks for this, I will buy a HRM and take your advice.

                Sadly I'm not retired - still teaching three days a week. But if I make my working days my 'gym days' and the other four my hiking/walking days then I can adapt.
                Your HR for fat burning will be around 120bpm (all these things start of 180 - Age). Which will arrive quicker than you might expect.

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                  Originally posted by Tony C View Post

                  Indeed, I will have to discover previously untapped levels of self denial. But I actually want to do it, so that's a start.

                  About a year ago I lost a stone at least (which I later put back on) when I contracted quite a severe chest infection and I just lost the enjoyment out of eating and ate very little for anout three weeks without pining for food at all. I now look upon that time with great fondness.
                  I've been taking green tea pills to regulate appetite. They seem to help. Might be an option given your short time frame. Obviously, make your self aware of any health implications before popping pills, et cetera.

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                    Just looked up the Holland and Barrett green tea pills option. Will try them. Any help I can get. Thanks.

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                      My gentle weight-loss progress seems to have stalled rather and I've become becalmed around the 13-3 mark. I'm blaming a moderate increase in socialising recently plus the rotten weather. I'm hoping that when the fine weather arrives in England, as it always does every Spring, that my activity levels will leap and the pounds start to drop off.

                      Can't see anything wrong with that plan.

                      No more tales of the scales from me until I dip below the 13st mark.

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                        Originally posted by Nocturnal Submission View Post
                        My gentle weight-loss progress seems to have stalled rather and I've become becalmed around the 13-3 mark. I'm blaming a moderate increase in socialising recently plus the rotten weather. I'm hoping that when the fine weather arrives in England, as it always does every Spring, that my activity levels will leap and the pounds start to drop off.

                        Can't see anything wrong with that plan.

                        No more tales of the scales from me until I dip below the 13st mark.
                        ** Does some Imperial - Metric converting **

                        Hey, you're almost my Imperial Weight Twin!

                        This morning the scales kindly showed the number 81 for the first time in a long time. Which may not be a good thing as I've been skipping the workouts this week and seeing downwards progress might reinforce a bad message for the long term.

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                          So I've finally gotten below 85 kg for the first time in ages (from 93 kg) and am no longer technically overweight. And can tuck my shirt in my trousers again.

                          Will stop around 83 kg and, as mentioned previously upthread, I need a strategy to keep it there.

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                            Originally posted by Lurgee View Post

                            ** Does some Imperial - Metric converting **

                            Hey, you're almost my Imperial Weight Twin!

                            This morning the scales kindly showed the number 81 for the first time in a long time. Which may not be a good thing as I've been skipping the workouts this week and seeing downwards progress might reinforce a bad message for the long term.

                            How tall are you, Lurgee?

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                              I've decided to make Thursday my weigh-in day instead of Monday after the weekends' excesses. Today I was 13st 6 after three days this week of the Tesco reduced fat chicken sandwich, popcorn and an 80-calorie snack for lunch and walking four miles a day. Nice psychological boost, but it'll all be back on on Monday.

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                                Originally posted by Stumpy Pepys View Post
                                So I've finally gotten below 85 kg for the first time in ages (from 93 kg) and am no longer technically overweight. And can tuck my shirt in my trousers again.

                                Will stop around 83 kg and, as mentioned previously upthread, I need a strategy to keep it there.
                                Well done, fella.

                                Just out of interest, have you been banishing beer from your diet? One of my regulars is from Bavaria and she's lost a shitload of weight in the last six months, but she still has a brace of Weißbier every time she turns up. When somebody asked her about it, she said, "I'm from Bavaria. I can't not drink beer. No, I cut out other stuff instead."

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                                  I can incorporate beer easily in my program but I will need to zap other calories.

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                                    Originally posted by Nocturnal Submission View Post


                                    How tall are you, Lurgee?
                                    I claim 6'0".

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                                      Originally posted by Lurgee View Post

                                      I claim 6'0".

                                      In that case you must must be within the healthy BMI range, surely?

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                                        Originally posted by Nocturnal Submission View Post


                                        In that case you must must be within the healthy BMI range, surely?
                                        25.31, it tells me.

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                                          You're a power walk & salad away from health nirvana.

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                                            Originally posted by treibeis View Post
                                            Well done, fella.

                                            Just out of interest, have you been banishing beer from your diet? One of my regulars is from Bavaria and she's lost a shitload of weight in the last six months, but she still has a brace of Weißbier every time she turns up. When somebody asked her about it, she said, "I'm from Bavaria. I can't not drink beer. No, I cut out other stuff instead."
                                            I think the word for that is alcorexia.

                                            To answer the question, yes and no. So on the 5:2 diet, you're restricted to 600 calories a day, twice a week, and--as a bottle of Helles is about 200 calories--alcohol isn't really an option on those days. Unless you're a true Bavarian and drink three Weißbier on your fasting days and nothing else. But on this regime, you don't really have to count calories, assuming you don't overeat (or drink) on the non-fasting days.

                                            But generally, unless I go out, I don't drink much in the week.

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                                              I did not weigh myself this morning as I felt there was more to come after my morning , ahem, ritual...I was right...Don't let a shy poo spoil your joy at a decreasing weight.

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                                                Originally posted by Stumpy Pepys View Post

                                                I think the word for that is alcorexia.

                                                To answer the question, yes and no. So on the 5:2 diet, you're restricted to 600 calories a day, twice a week, and--as a bottle of Helles is about 200 calories--alcohol isn't really an option on those days. Unless you're a true Bavarian and drink three Weißbier on your fasting days and nothing else. But on this regime, you don't really have to count calories, assuming you don't overeat (or drink) on the non-fasting days.

                                                But generally, unless I go out, I don't drink much in the week.
                                                Ah, right, I'd forgotten you were doing the 5:2 thing.

                                                I reckon I do that - inadvertently - in summer anyway. The sassy nature of my digestive system coupled with the fact that the lavs at work are choc-a-bloc (in all senses) at weekends means that I daren't eat very much on Saturdays and Sundays (shitting myself would be bad for business). I subsist primarily on water and the occasional coffee and/or apple-juice spritzer.

                                                I knocked alcohol on the head about a year ago. I can no longer drink beer, I don't like wine and as for spirits ... no, that would be a dangerous road to go down, at least for me.
                                                Last edited by treibeis; 20-02-2020, 12:46.

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                                                  I saw this and thought of all of you.

                                                  https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07P893Z...dDbGljaz10cnVl

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                                                    I could have put this in WTF thread but it's also about diet and weight.
                                                    Near where my brother works, there's an apartment for sale that wouldn't shift. The main reason is that the previous owner took out the kitchen so that he could put in a games room!

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