The Dis-United Kingdom Thread - (Indyref 2, United Ireland poll, Welsh independence)

[Lang Spoon]

Yeah it's not devolved in Scotland either but I think the Scottish Govt can use their control of the planning process to block developments like this.

[Patrick Thistle]

Hahahahahaha. All mouth and no money. Trolling twats.

https://twitter.com/ITVWales/status/1441419318365810692?s=19

[Discordant Resonance]

At this stage, the DUP are recycling narratives as swiftly as heat:

https://twitter.com/SuzyJourno/status/1441517220161626112

[Discordant Resonance]

I'm sure PT wishes this were true.

[Antepli Ejderha]

The attacks on Drakeford show how much he's feared, Starmer gets nothing like this because they know he's not a threat.

[Patrick Thistle]

I'm sure PT wishes this were true.

Yeah the first thing to remember is that anything Andrew RIGHT TWAT Davies says is bullshit. The second thing to remember is he spews his nonsense on direct orders from Westminster which is why Westminster finagled him back as leader of the "Welsh" Conservatives. He is an obedient dolt who has never had an original thought of his own that doesn't involve food.

It's an odd avenue of attack though. "He's not a unionist!!!!" I don't think people really give a shit. The union government seems to be full of corrupt amoral cunts who swing in the political winds like corpses on gibbets, so it's more like a compliment.

[Patrick Thistle]

The attacks on Drakeford show how much he's feared, Starmer gets nothing like this because they know he's not a threat.

Or what AE said

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

Do people think that Andrew RT Davies, is sponsored by Russia Today, or that he's given to speaking in the voice of others on twitter?

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

It's actually Andrew Russell T Davies and it comes from the fact that he was originally conceived as a Doctor Who villain before BBC Wales decided a Tory politician was a much scarier monster.

[Patrick Thistle]

He does look like a Slitheen wearing a human suit, now you mention it.

[Patrick Thistle]

The newly elected leader of the Northern Independence Party

https://twitter.com/PhilipProudfoot/status/1443271609595346951?s=19

[DCI Harry Batt]

I think he overstates his case a little.

[Evariste Euler Gauss]

Colm Toibin is not a fan of the idea of Irish unification:

Colm Tóibín: will the Brexit fallout lead to a ‘united Ireland’? | Books | The Guardian

[Lang Spoon]

The dreary cunt is bad enough when he's boring on about Barcelona, that was fucking witless.

[Discordant Resonance]

He does rather overegg Varadkar and Coveney's support for Irish unity, as stating that they could see it happening within their lifetimes tends to mean 20-30 years from now, when there's a clear majority in NI for it, and the political and economic systems are sufficiently synchronised to minimise disruption. Of course, the concerns of Protestants need to be taken on board, and any enterprise that seeks to merely export the present Republic into a 32-county system would be cloth-headed, to say the least, but to imply that SF must never be allowed to enter government down South shows somewhat of a generational blindness, even if the current leadership continue to excuse the atrocities of the past.

[Duncan Gardner]

Discordant Resonance Toibin does quote Coveney referring his political lifetime though- which does bring the dread day closer, assuming that Simon doesnt plan to spend his dotage in the Aras

[Lang Spoon]

I love how he quotes McDowell as some kind of anti-Authoritarian authority. That cunt and the creeping Jesus follow up Noel Ahern were the most authoritarian justice Ministers in modern Ireland. Not to mention Mikey's racist pandering referendum.

[Discordant Resonance]

True, but it was Varadkar who said he wanted to retire at 50, whereas one can imagine Coveney hanging around indefinitely until he finally becomes Taoiseach, like a cross between Ted Heath and Charles.

[Lang Spoon]

The Merchant Prince is angling for UN or EU sinecure befitting his Big Brain and even bigger sense of self-importance, Dunc. Maybe he'd see Phoenix Park to be a suitable semi-retirement.

I'd also like to see how someone once renowned for being thick as fuck performs when not surrounded by the Best and the Brightest at the DFA. Those folk could almost make Marc MacSharry look sentient.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

SImon Coveney is one of those blueshirts, who likely firmly believes that it will be his turn to lead fine gael at some point in the future. This is a big problem for them. No fianna fail leader ever really thought that it was going to be their turn (except for perhaps Lemass) and that they would have to clamber to power over the political corpses of their enemies, leaving you with a situation that if you could clamber to the top of Fianna Fail, blueshirts weren't going to pose you too many problems.

[Lang Spoon]

Giggly wee Richard Bruton wasnt fit to be in charge of fuck all not even the family farm, and was fool enough to think having the backing of a friendless malcontent like Kieran O'Donnell would be enough to pull off a palace coup against stupid but cunning Inda. So there might be something in your theory there Berba, except for Fianna Fail looking complete fucked beyond repair and the Shinners looking like their successors in every way.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

We're an odd electorate. If you don't give us what we want, when we want it, we'll vote for someone who will, but If you give us what we want, and it turns out to be really really bad for us, we reserve the right to blame you personally. If Fianna Fail had lost power in 2007 they'd be close to an overall majority now.

[Discordant Resonance]

According to the MP for the Vale of Clwyd, Wales has never operated as a united political entity, and generally reflects trends in the North of England.

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

According to the MP for the Vale of Clwyd, Wales has never operated as a united political entity, and generally reflects trends in the North of England.

Do any other countries function as a united political entity?

[Patrick Thistle]

Is England a united political entity? Why does he specify Wales following the North of England?