The Dis-United Kingdom Thread - (Indyref 2, United Ireland poll, Welsh independence)

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

Advocates for Welsh independence: "we need infrastructure that supports Welsh economic and cultural life and to address a century of systematic underdevelopment"
Unionists: "how about 'Union Highways'?"

https://nation.cymru/news/union-high...-independence/

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

Anyone's interested in reading the "positive patriotic case for Wales and the Union" it's here in full.
https://www.conservativehome.com/pla...eparatism.html

I warn you it features the sentence "End of" and that's not even the most embarrassing sentence (I think the one about the Imperial War Museum projecting itself into Wales probably earns that title).

[DCI Harry Batt]

Wowzers. What a dickhead.

How long is "a generation", by the way?

[Duncan Gardner]

25 years (1991-2016, 2016-41 and so on)

[Patrick Thistle]

Advocates for Welsh independence: "we need infrastructure that supports Welsh economic and cultural life and to address a century of systematic underdevelopment"
Unionists: "how about 'Union Highways'?"

https://nation.cymru/news/union-high...-independence/

Ah you beat me to it. Fuck knows what they mean beyond the extraction infrastructure we already have.

Here's a tweet complete with the reasoning and the description of Welsh independence as dangerous

https://twitter.com/YesCymru/status/1364530541186449408?s=19

[Snake Plissken]

Weird how the Government can lose a court case about unlawfully wasting millions of pounds of public money to the sound of crickets and a single week later an internal SNP spat is seeing Kuennsberg and the rest of the BBC News team helicoptered into Glasgow.

[Patrick Thistle]

It's not weird. The BBC is threatened by Independence movements. A lot of cushty jobs in Cardiff and whereverBBCScotlandisbased are dependent on the "British" in BBC.

[Lang Spoon]

BBC Scotland occupy a big box on the Clyde and pretend that Question Time is somehow a Scottish produced programme. They made more stuff in Scotland 30 years ago than now, there was a deliberate decision to cut Scottish only current affairs programming once Devolution came in.

[Patrick Thistle]

It's extra cash but the devolved governments aren't being trusted with spending it on the right things (like bungs to Tory donors)

https://twitter.com/YesAbergele/status/1364657953526153218?s=19

[Patrick Thistle]

BBC journalist quote tweets Guido Fawkes story and has mysterious 'source' confirming it. Seems.to be how the beeb does business now.

https://twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/1364694127766614019?s=19

I wonder what the 6 staff on a rumoured 150K a year will be doing now that the Union Unit is gone.

[Ray de Galles]

Thought this might fit here :

https://twitter.com/TadhgHickey/status/1364864367121022977?s=20

[Diable Rouge]

I see The National is launching a Welsh edition for Dydd Gwyl Dewi:

https://twitter.com/nationalwales/status/1366128303334129665

[Patrick Thistle]

There have been a few media launches of late. Including Nation Cymru. Just to confused things.

[Antepli Ejderha]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...droidApp_Other

39% of people in Wales polled would vote for independence, excluding the don't knows.

[Patrick Thistle]

I bought a copy of The National on St David's Day. Not really sure what to make of it tbh. There wasn't anything particularly in depth. I think it would be better as a magazine but that seems to be a dying industry like newspapers.

[Patrick Thistle]

#BetterTogether

https://twitter.com/nationalwales/status/1367909571478618117?s=19

[Nefertiti2]

This feels like appropriate thread for this

https://twitter.com/nukewatchuk/status/1367928662738280448?s=21

[Lang Spoon]

30 miles from Glasgow. Vile cunts.

[The Red Max]

Mark Drakeford - tellin' it like it is.

https://twitter.com/BBCWalesNews/status/1368931958173077507

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

Would really recommend the whole documentary- i watched it last night and aside from the stuff covering the breakdown of the relationship between the UK and Welsh government, it's also interesting in the way it covers the Welsh cabinet meetings during the key points of debating restrictions during the autumn lockdown and the run up to Christmas.

Drakeford himself comes out of it fairly well in the sense that the bad decisions he made were informed by the lack of power of the Welsh government to support the Welsh economy financially (and the refusal of Westminster to do so). Then again he took decisions he knew were going to kill thousands of people in order to avoid a direct confrontation with Westminster.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...-mewn-pandemig

[Patrick Thistle]

Story in the National
Boris Johnson will use courts to fight Scottish independence vote

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19...pendence-vote/

[Patrick Thistle]

Although this article feels like it's criticising higher public spending, it identifies some issues with the Barnett Formula. For example, that it may exacerbate unequal spending in England and is a unilateral system operated by the UK Government.

https://twitter.com/AkashPaun/status/1370333924623319041?s=19

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

Seems like an argument for levelling down doesn't it? He's also divorcing the barnett formula from the political reason for it, which doesn't make much sense.

[Lang Spoon]

Public spending being low in European terms is a major reason for shit productivity across the U.K., reduced outcomes by almost every metric, constant firefighting by devolved administrations (at least the two halfway competent ones).

[Patrick Thistle]

Let's make Wales less democratic #bettertogether

https://twitter.com/NationCymru/status/1371916948360007685?s=19