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    Originally posted by Sporting View Post
    I had to look up negging.
    Negging is an act of emotional manipulation whereby a person makes a deliberate backhanded compliment or otherwise flirtatious remark to another person to undermine their confidence and increase their need of the manipulator's approval. The term was coined and prescribed by pickup artists.

    From Wikipedia.

    I had to look it up too, I presumed it comes from negative.

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      Originally posted by ooh aah View Post
      Yeah but these are the same people who think that the UK subsidised the rest of the EU. Everyone else is a parasite, except them of course. They got where they were through hard work etc.
      And that the UK subsidises the rest of the world, rather than it being the other way round since before the UK existed.

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        Jackson Carlew resigns as Scottish Tory leader, with Douglas Ross tipped as his successor.
        Last edited by Diable Rouge; 30-07-2020, 19:57.

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          Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
          Jackson Carlew resigns as Scottish Tory leader, with Douglas Ross topped as his successor.

          Brutal!

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            Hahahah - Autocorrect obviously with its own slant on affairs!

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              Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
              Independence will come to Scotland as it came to the Slovaks, when Big Country has had enough of periphery "Celtic bleating".
              That is nothing like how the Slovaks gained independence/split away/whatever. It was more like a "We think you are nuts, but if that is what you want" shrug of the shoulders. It was entirely driven from the Slovak side of the border.

              Edit - oh, sorry, you posted that days ago. Unrefreshed thread snafu. But anyway, yeah, it's still a quite substantial misrepresentation of how that particular dynamic played out.
              Last edited by Janik; 30-07-2020, 20:16.

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                I was going on a few paragraphs from Neal Ascherson, and what I remember of Vaclav Klaus being a total bastard, I stand down my bollocks assertion.

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                  Originally posted by Janik View Post
                  That is nothing like how the Slovaks gained independence/split away/whatever. It was more like a "We think you are nuts, but if that is what you want" shrug of the shoulders. It was entirely driven from the Slovak side of the border.

                  Edit - oh, sorry, you posted that days ago. Unrefreshed thread snafu. But anyway, yeah, it's still a quite substantial misrepresentation of how that particular dynamic played out.
                  Ironically, it may have taken almost 30 years, but in terms of income per capita, the Slovaks have finally caught up with Czechia now.

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                    Well, yes, undoubtedly so (Klaus). The Slovak leader at the time, Meciar, had him trumped* though. There are more parallels with Brexit really, in terms of something driven through on a populist wave by a politician who figured doing it would increase his personal power rather than any substantial belief it would benefit his country (that would be Meciar, not Klaus, in this circumstance, though Klaus is certainly capable of being as cynical if he saw such an opportunity).

                    * - two guys who you can be absolutely certain love the orange baby.

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                      Talk of fucking Couthie Ruthie back to lead the Ruth Davidson We Said No Nicola! and Unionist Party.

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                        Originally posted by Diable Rouge View Post
                        Ironically, it may have taken almost 30 years, but in terms of income per capita, the Slovaks have finally caught up with Czechia now.
                        The trend was almost immediate, though. The idea expressed at the time that the Slovaks had 35% of the population and 15% of the Domestic Product has been wrong almost ever since it was said.
                        A key difference to England-Scotland/Wales is Czechia, whilst arguably fitting with the idea expressed up page of seeing Slovakia as a parasite (I think that overstates things somewhat, but let's run with it), were much happier to let the Slovaks self-determine and therefore leave than is being presented about English Nationalists re: Scotland or Wales. Patronising rather than abusive, basically.
                        Last edited by Janik; 30-07-2020, 20:45.

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                          Welsh Tories never disappoint.

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