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The Dis-United Kingdom Thread - (Indyref 2, United Ireland poll, Welsh independence)
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Not sure how I'd answer that question, given that I have increasingly supported Scottish independence in the past decade, have long supported a peaceful parting of the ways with NI and, I guess, wouldn't be too arsed if Wales got independence. I guess that makes me an English nationalist by default
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I fully expect Johnson or someone even more a cynical English Nat to eventually capitalise on a growing resentment/estrangement from teh Jocks among the Tory core. Independence will come to Scotland as it came to the Slovaks, when Big Country has had enough of periphery "Celtic bleating".
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Meanwhile, some bloke calling himself the Manchester Gazette asks:
https://twitter.com/ChiefEditorMG/status/1278388082925096967
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Originally posted by Diable Rouge View PostMeanwhile, some bloke calling himself the Manchester Gazette asks:
https://twitter.com/ChiefEditorMG/status/1278388082925096967
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The Brexit Party has announced its going to campaign to Abolish the Assembly at the next Welsh Parliament election. I feel a bit worried about this because there is a Brexit voting bloc in Wales now and the Abolish the Assembly loons are typical Vote Leave style liars and scoundrels appealing to base prejudice.
This leads to a dilemma of do you take them seriously? The Remain party kind of sleepwalked into the referendum back in 2016 because it feels like not enough people took Farage et al seriously, and this feels the same way. It's easy for established politicos in their bubbles to dismiss the BP as fringe nutters, but the electorate aren't always in that bubble.
But then if you take it seriously, do you give credibility to them?
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- Mar 2008
- 18786
- Revelling In The Hole
- England, Chelsea and Tooting and Mitcham. And Surrey CCC. And Wimbledon Dons Speedway (RIP)
- Nairn's Cheese Oatcake
Funnily enough I was looking at the results of the last Senedd Cymru election yesterday and noticed that Abolish The Welsh Assembly got 4.4% of the Region vote even then, with UKIP mopping up 12.5-13% of the national vote.
Probably not to be ignored.
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The irony of the party that furiously insisted the UK pass into legislation the result of a non-binding referendum, now campaigning that no-one who voted for something in another non-binding referendum actually wanted what they voted for to become law.
I say "irony". "Thunderous, imbecilic hypocrisy" maybe.
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Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View PostThe Brexit Party has announced its going to campaign to Abolish the Assembly at the next Welsh Parliament election. I feel a bit worried about this because there is a Brexit voting bloc in Wales now and the Abolish the Assembly loons are typical Vote Leave style liars and scoundrels appealing to base prejudice.
This leads to a dilemma of do you take them seriously? The Remain party kind of sleepwalked into the referendum back in 2016 because it feels like not enough people took Farage et al seriously, and this feels the same way. It's easy for established politicos in their bubbles to dismiss the BP as fringe nutters, but the electorate aren't always in that bubble.
But then if you take it seriously, do you give credibility to them?
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