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    New York in the 70s/80s

    dmak, can I find it on Amazon ? I'm sure Tubby and I aren't the only ones who would be interested in reading it.

    Thanks for the artist name. I was a Senior in High School in 1990-91, and taking the bus into NYC to take my film classes at SVA (as I'd even get credits for my following freshman year.) Having been a 15-year-old that got hustled for $10 of old coins that I used from my coin collection for a fake drivers license in Times Square (you should've seen the crackheads looking at Ben Franklin silver dollars and saying "what the fuck are these ?,") I had seen the transformation since 1988-89. Those billboards were by far the most bizarre.

    For that 1988 New Years Eve trip, I went with my friend from Oklahoma whose dad was VP of Holiday Inn. We were able to stay at the executive suites at Grand Central Station, eat sushi for breakfast and jump on the marble tables.

    His older brother and his friend were our chaperones, and we had to check in with our parents at all times.
    There was a Greek girl who lived in Flatbush from summer camp that I was going to visit. She was beyond gorgeous, a Brooklyn Greek in all the best senses of the word. She was telling me she was home alone all day, and kept imploring me to get there. But we had to keep checking in with the parents, and by the time we got there, she was babysitting.

    I had a trenchcoat, as I liked Doctor Who and the trenchcoats were kind of in-style amongst the Depeche Mode set, of which I was on the periphery. I had a machete, so it fit perfect in my pocket.

    By the time we got off the subway, her mom was there to escort us to the apartment. Of all the times for my machete to cut through my pocket, it was when I was walking right next to her. I mumbled something about "justincase..."

    When we got there, the mom whispered to the girl for about 5 minutes. They're still whispering.

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      Yep.

      Thanks, dmak. Huge bizarre memory that has been explained.

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        Here you go, JV.

        http://www.amazon.com/Where-Ball-Drops-Nights-Square/dp/0816642761

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          Thanks. Gotta get that one.

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            Don't pay for it. Just wave your machete at Ursus and take his copy.

            I'm really looking fwd to receiving it.

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              The Son of Sam seems quite a nice chap these days. See he's been interviewed a few times.

              Ian Brady is a polite and intelligent fellow too, judging from the letter of his that once landed on my desk in Prison Service HQ in 2000.

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                Christ, Detroit 1967, eh?

                Puerto Rico seems to have had bad unemployment in the 50s and 60s (though masked with impressive overall growth). Guess that's why they turned up in New York.

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                  The teachers' strike and how it made the Jews white

                  It explains a lot of the 70s and 80s.

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                    That's very good,thanks.

                    I feel very sympathetic to the teachers there.

                    Lindsay didn't have much luck, did he?

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                      The bits on the "meritocracy" are very interesting too.

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                        Read a bit about the Central Park Jogger who was raped and left for dead.

                        have I understood this correctly? Some minority newspapers repeatedly named the (white) victim to make a point about racism?

                        The fitting up of the suspects doesn't surprise me. But this, I'm shocked.

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                          Trailer for a documentary that just came out on that case.

                          I don't specifically recall papers naming the victim, but it doesn't particularly surprise me.

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                            ursus arctos wrote: Trailer for a documentary that just came out on that case.

                            I don't specifically recall papers naming the victim, but it doesn't particularly surprise me.
                            I saw about the film. Don't know if the naming is mentioned in it.

                            Why do you say you wouldn't be surprised?

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                              Racial discourse in the city was seriously poisoned at the time.

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                                You're not wrong.

                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_Sun

                                In 1989 The City Sun, together with the Amsterdam News, another black-owned newspaper in New York, published the name of the "Central Park jogger", Trisha Meili, who had been raped and beaten almost to death. Leid explained her decision to name the jogger by referring to an incident involving Tawana Brawley, a minor who said she had been raped, and the double standard practiced by the mainstream media:

                                The same media [that] had no difficulty identifying the underage Wappinger-Falls teenager [Brawley] by name [and] invading the sanctity of her home to show her face ... have been careful to avoid identifying the Central Park woman
                                I don't want to go to New York even now when I read that.

                                Though I can appreciate the poisonous context. Just about.

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                                  Being more positive, David Dinkins improved things on the discourse front, right?

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                                    Yes.

                                    Tawana Brawley, Crown Heights, and the Jogger combined to form the nadir.

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                                      That City Sun business has some shades of black stations in New Orleans referring to Bobby Jindal as "Piyush," in revenge for white stations in New Orleans using "Hussein" in their reporting of our president.

                                      Color me flabbergasted at the Burns Documentary. I hadn't heard anything about the 5 being acquitted. That's as crazy to me (in a converse manner) as finding out Joe Son, one of the stars of the early Ultimate Fighting Championships, is in life imprisonment for a kidnapping-torture-rape.

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                                        We seem to be a doing real life hommage to 70s/80s NewYorksplaitation films today.

                                        First, a ferry from New Jersey crashed into its pier near Wall Street, injuring more than fifty people, some seriously.

                                        Then, this happened on the Fifty Ninth Street Bridge



                                        I think that I'll get lunch in the cafeteria this afternoon.

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                                          ursus arctos wrote: Yes.

                                          Tawana Brawley, Crown Heights, and the Jogger combined to form the nadir.
                                          There were several black teenagers killed by groups of white kids, too, weren't there? Yusef Hawkins and a kid in Howard Beach whose name I've forgotten.

                                          And of course even earlier was the whole Bernard Goetz subway shooting.

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                                            Michael Griffith.

                                            Willie Turks.

                                            Yusuf Hawkins.

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                                              Hey Tubby, if you want some good clean fun, FX is running some of the original Law & Order from 1990 with Chris Noth as Logan and George Dzundza as Greevey.

                                              L&O always filmed on location in NYC (it became kind of a local institution after a while) and the very early ones, besides being a very good police procedural, show off a grit in New York that the proliferation of Apple Stores has swept away. There was an opening scene last night in a filthy, damp, miserable alleyway covered in trash that doesn't really exist anymore.

                                              They had a tendency to rip off famous cases - they cover Tawana Brawley, Lisa Steinberg (the only time they ever admitted doing so) and Robert Chambers in the first couple series - so it's almost pseudo-history at times.

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                                                That first ferry crash in my life, the one from 10-20 years ago, sounded unbelievably terrifying.

                                                By "unbelievably terrifying", I mean being trapped, slowly seeing the boat coming close to a pier, then having your arm or leg ripped off in extreme slow motion.

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                                                  A number of our administrative assistants were on that particular Staten Island Ferry, though thankfully none of them suffered significant injuries.

                                                  At least one of them has taken the bus ever since.

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                                                    Flynnie, only one Law and Order for me.

                                                    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm631215872/tt0405564

                                                    Mat P would like it.

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