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    #51
    New York in the 70s/80s

    linus wrote:
    I'm going to watch this tomorrow at the local microcinema.
    I had never seen that before. I need to chase that down. The opening description (other than the punk rock music stuff) made it look a bit like a Taxi Driver knock-off.

    The other film I forgot to mention, although not really of the dystopic NYC genre: Times Square.

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      #52
      New York in the 70s/80s

      That looks like a hoot, what, with Mick Jagger at 0:33...

      "Punk Rock" is kind of an interesting genre entry, for the music of course (late 70s NY punk rock scene with live shows) but also because it actually was made as a classic 70s porn film (see pornstaches) then cleaned into a softcore punksplotation flick, jumping on the hype that came out in the late 70s about that musical genre. The movie flopped bigtime because it was also marketed as a disco film, which alienated the punk-rock crowd.

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        #53
        New York in the 70s/80s

        Another one for danielmak.

        The Elk Hotel closes its doors for the last time.

        A New York Observer writer rented a room in 1999. He called the Elk "one of the few surviving remnants of 42nd Streetís seamy and seedy side, a barely living connection to the gray days when Times Square was the reigning kingdom of sex and sin."

        Nothing much had changed by 2004 when the New York Times went in and asked a pair of sightseers how they liked the accommodations. ''Other than the mice, the hookers and the transvestites,'' said one, ''it's fine.''

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          #54
          New York in the 70s/80s

          I never lived there but I used to visit frequently and I had a damn good time back then. Bars open to the early hours, Dylan and pals playing down the village, friendly people taking you to cool, hole in the wall places. It was one of the most serendipidous towns I ever hung out in.

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            #55
            New York in the 70s/80s

            RobM wrote:
            Some more -

            http://gothamist.com/2012/01/18/amazing_photos_of_1980s_new_york_ci.php#photo-1
            Some damn angry comments there.

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              #56
              New York in the 70s/80s

              Flynnie wrote:
              RobM wrote:
              Some more -

              http://gothamist.com/2012/01/18/amazing_photos_of_1980s_new_york_ci.php#photo-1
              Some damn angry comments there.
              Yeah, that's some funny shit. Young urban dwellers sure do love their authenticity.

              In response to UA's post about The Elk Hotel, there was a great two part series from Gail Sheehy in New York Magazine in 1972. "Cleaning Up Hell's Bedroom" (November 13) and "The Landlords of Hell's Bedroom" (November 20). I was hoping I had easy access to PDFs of both but they're probably on my computer in my office and I'm teaching on a different campus this term so....

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                #57
                New York in the 70s/80s

                The Quietus features a review of a new (?) documentary about late 70s No Wave cinema. Perhaps folks in London will check it out when the film opens there.

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                  #58
                  New York in the 70s/80s

                  Denizens of this thread will likely appreciate the photography of Chris Arnade, who is a very interesting guy.



                  I particularly commend his series on the pigeon keepers of New York

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                    #59
                    New York in the 70s/80s

                    On the theme of places that had seen better days in the seventies, here's Balsall Heath, Birmingham. I'm guessing the seventies from the parkas.

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                      #60
                      New York in the 70s/80s

                      Mattresses? Why, when I were a boy you were lucky to...etc etc...

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                        #61
                        New York in the 70s/80s

                        Ah, man. That's the England I grew up in. Houses falling down, alienation, urban decay, everyone wearing green or blue parkas with the imitation fur hoods, in black and white and raining all the time.

                        It was great.

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                          #62
                          New York in the 70s/80s

                          Tubby Isaacs wrote:
                          On the theme of places that had seen better days in the seventies, here's Balsall Heath, Birmingham. I'm guessing the seventies from the parkas.

                          That looks like Gary, Indiana. Except, it still looks like that.
                          So does the West Side of Chicago, some parts are so bombed out there's actually open stands of prairie that have totally replaced the urban infrastructure, the only thing missing is some buffalo or deer. The incongruity is staggering.

                          So, the north of England = The Rust Belt?

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                            #63
                            New York in the 70s/80s

                            Heh. Who bombed Chicago? Elliot Ness? Norman Mailer in 1968?

                            That does sound odd though, radmonkey.

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                              #64
                              New York in the 70s/80s

                              The same forces that bombed the South Bronx.



                              Poverty, Crime and Despair.

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                                #65
                                New York in the 70s/80s

                                The Three Horseman of the Recession.

                                "What happened to the Fourth Horseman?"
                                "We made him redundant"

                                That picture is bleak as fuck, ursus.

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                                  #66
                                  New York in the 70s/80s

                                  It's meant to be.

                                  It was an installation for an alternative political convention in 1980.

                                  A brief history of the area.

                                  And a good piece on what went into its revival in the 90s.

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                                    #67
                                    New York in the 70s/80s

                                    radmonkey wrote:

                                    So, the north of England = The Rust Belt?
                                    Birmingham's in the Midlands, which has a lot of rust.

                                    We've got another rustbelt in the north of England, and one in West Scotland.

                                    Balsall Heath, if possible, got even worse in the eighties and early nineties.



                                    Note the daylight.

                                    I think the woman on the right played Claire Scott in Grange Hill.

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                                      #68
                                      New York in the 70s/80s

                                      Mat wrote:
                                      Ah, man. That's the England I grew up in. Houses falling down, alienation, urban decay, everyone wearing green or blue parkas with the imitation fur hoods, in black and white and raining all the time.

                                      It was great.
                                      Did Henry Ford make parkas? Any colour you like as long as it's blue or green.

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                                        #69
                                        New York in the 70s/80s

                                        More 70s from England- World In Action on Hulme, Manchester. Bit different to Balsall Heath because the crescents are less than 10 years old when this is filmed.



                                        Some quite incredibly stupid design, like letterboxes kids could stick their arm through to open the door. The film refers to a change of policy of moving in single people and students. I think this worked much better, and IIRC SSS lived there for a while. It lasted another 20 odd years.

                                        Less ugly housing, but even worse social problems. World In Action again, Birkenhead 1980s. The rubbish dump bits are incredible:



                                        World In Action was taken off in 1998.

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                                          #70
                                          New York in the 70s/80s

                                          I reckon I've found the grim New York 70s movie. The Panic In Needle Park, anyone?

                                          There were some grim looking subway carriages in Seinfeld the other night too.

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                                            #71
                                            New York in the 70s/80s

                                            Haha! I seen what you've done there! It only took me six months.

                                            Anyway Panic On Needle Park easily one of the bleakest films I have ever seen.

                                            A young Al Pacino playing a desperate junkie.
                                            The brilliant never-seen-her-in-anything-else Kitty Winn playing a desperate junkie.
                                            Pretty much everyone else playing a desperate junkie.

                                            Great shots of New York in the 70's. Grim as fuck film though.

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                                              #72
                                              New York in the 70s/80s

                                              Isn't it just?

                                              Helen starts with an abortion and goes downhill.

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                                                #73
                                                New York in the 70s/80s

                                                Indeed, that's maybe the most depressing film I've ever seen. In the top (or bottom?) five, certainly.

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                                                  #74
                                                  New York in the 70s/80s

                                                  It's the second most depressing I've seen, after Nil By Mouth. You seen that?

                                                  What does it in each case is the ending.

                                                  edit- did you see the spoiler? Hope not.

                                                  It's here if you ever feel too happy.

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                                                    #75
                                                    New York in the 70s/80s

                                                    The brilliant never-seen-her-in-anything-else Kitty Winn playing a desperate junkie.

                                                    You didn't see The Exorcist?

                                                    Sadly, Panic in Neeedle Park was about a decade ahead of finding its audience.

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