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    Originally posted by MsD View Post
    did a line of washing
    I mean, fair play on getting all that up your nose.

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      Lightweight loafers with that type of bobbly sole are often sold as 'driving shoes', which has always made me wonder whether you can wear them to walk around in. The UK climate probably makes it a more pressing question here than where you are, Sits.

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        A previous boss of mine used to wear that type of shoe, and would refer to them in all seriousness as "European driving shoes".

        He was an absolute cunt, not that I'm saying that the shoe thing was the only reason.

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          Let’s hope not. I’ve never driven in them if it helps, and definitely not in Europe.

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            Those aren't "driving shoes."

            These are.
            https://us.puma.com/en/us/pd/speedca...527169814.html

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              These are classic Italian driving shoes.

              The extension of the dimpled rubber sole over the back of the heel is a feature not a bug

              I once tried to do an IPO for the manufacturer.

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                My little knobs do that, but from memory they weren’t sold as driving shoes.

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                    Sorry I posted that on the iPhone and wasn’t offered a sizing choice. At least you can admire my polka dot socks and Mrs. S’ knitting bag.

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                      Originally posted by Sits View Post
                      My little knobs do that, but from memory they weren’t sold as driving shoes.
                      Perhaps considered too effete for the Australian market

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                        I see the advantage of the heel like that while driving, but the whole thing just seems like it would be too loose and floppy.

                        Also, I like driving with shoes where the sole creates more of a sharp corner in the back so I get more of a “lever“ effect.

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                          The “loose and floppy” thing is interesting HP. When I bought them they were a bit tight, to the extent I wondered about exchanging them for a larger size. Instead I pulled them about a lot, forced my feet into them and for the last N years they’ve been just right. I can slip them on, but they don’t fall off. If I did a mock football shot the shoe would fly off, but they never do so going up or down stairs etc. They’re also showing no sign of wearing out, which is a relief as the company which sold them are reduced to t-shirts these days.

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                            I just find that shoes with those kind of laces are usually a bit loose, but I guess if you got a smaller size and stretched them out, that could be different.

                            I wouldn’t want to walk far in those shoes. Not enough support.

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                              That's why they're "driving shoes" though

                              I've never had anything that I or anyone else would call driving shoes but sometimes if I'm going for a hike I'll put on a pair of trainers for the drive before I change into my boots

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                                Who has the time to be changing shoes that often? It takes a good ten to 20 seconds to do that.

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                                  Out for the wife’s birthday last night with daughter in tow, we each had an oyster marinated in a spot of chermoula. I’ve never been a fan of the salty, slimy blobs, tbh. Only 2 of us gagged.

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                                    I often drive in trainers, or in bare feet with flip-flops to slip into when getting out of the car, if I’m doing something that requires “specialist” footwear like hiking or playing golf. I have never owned driving shoes.

                                    Oysters, particularly raw ones, are the most comically overrated foodstuff on the planet.

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                                      Thinking of driving after golf, we went for a little drive after playing 9 holes in Amesbury yesterday. It started with some spectacular black raspberry soft-serve, then we hit the coast. We’d been through Newburyport a couple of weeks ago and it’s very nice and respectable. It turns out that once you get north of the Merrimack River mouth it’s a completely different place. It’s full blown White Trash Riviera. Like a low-scale New Englandy Atlantic City or Myrtle Beach. On the way home we picked up some American-Chinese food from one of the “Chinese” restaurants in town and it was so overwhelmingly sweet and sugary - even by American-Chinese standards that I had to give up on it.

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                                        I think oysters were rare for a while in the 80s, as they'd been massively overfished (and perhaps not as a foodstuff, but for pearls?). As soon as it cost a fiver to buy three of them, suddenly they became an unlikely status symbol, accompanied by ridiculous boasts of aphrodisiac qualities. That must be it, because I agree, they're absolutely revolting.
                                        Last edited by Rogin the Armchair fan; 26-09-2020, 11:40.

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                                          On the much-maligned Nextdoor someone has posted this:

                                          IM HERE TO HELP - WARUNG ASIA. If anyone is not working, not getting paid, has had their hours cut and runs out of food or necessities, or times are just tough, please don’t you or your kids go to sleep on an empty stomach. Don’t be afraid or embarrassed to send me a private message or an email to (redacted) - I will do anything I can to help. It may simply be me making a few extra meals when I cook, or just a case of dropping off a food parcel and leaving. No one has to know and where others are concerned, it never happened.

                                          Bit of business promotion involved, of course, and being on Nextdoor, one person failed to read the room and asked the guy who posted the above if he could park his food van in a different place , but by and large it met with an overwhelmingly positive response with a number of respondees saying, yes, if anyone needs a meal please contact me and I'll cook something for you.

                                          So, all rather lovely and heartening in these slightly dark times.

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                                            Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View Post
                                            Who has the time to be changing shoes that often? It takes a good ten to 20 seconds to do that.
                                            Thinking about it, why do superheroes favour kneeboots rather than an Italian driving shoe that they could just slip on and off without even having to bend down?

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                                              Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View Post
                                              Who has the time to be changing shoes that often? It takes a good ten to 20 seconds to do that.
                                              You just don't understand Italian clothes horse culture

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                                                Originally posted by Benjm View Post

                                                Thinking about it, why do superheroes favour kneeboots rather than an Italian driving shoe that they could just slip on and off without even having to bend down?
                                                Would work perfectly with skintight lycra.

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                                                  European driving shoes are particularly useful for Europeans, of course, due to the prevalence of manual shifting transmissions. The soft sole and the heel nubbies aid in heel/toe shifting, which is important for both performance driving and driving cars with small engines which need to be revved more highly.

                                                  In NA, a rigid sole is actually more useful when keeping the gas pedal in the same position for extended periods of time.

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                                                    Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View Post
                                                    Who has the time to be changing shoes that often? It takes a good ten to 20 seconds to do that.
                                                    You semi-rural Pennsylvanians and your go-go lifestyle.

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