The Andrew formerly known as Prince (was: Jeffrey Epstein thread)

[WOM]

Well, this has 'Wow' written all over it. Epstein / Prince Andrew / Dershowitz accuser Virginia Giuffre has stated she 'may have been mistaken' in accusing Dershowitz. She has dropped her accusations. In a demonstration of unbelievable magnanimity, he acknowledges she 'may have been mistaken' and is dropping his suit. With prejudice and no damages.

The wording is just...read it.

https://us.cnn.com/2022/11/08/us/ala...ped/index.html

[ursus arctos]

I don't have tine to go through this right now, but keep in mind that the charges against each of those people were different - not only the crimes charged, but the number of counts and (perhaps most importantly) whether they were charged in state or federal court.

[Janik]

Cosby - 3 to 10 years, overturned
Maxwell - 20 years
Weinstein - 23 years
Kelly - 30 years
Sandusky - 30 to 60 years
Nassar - 60 years + 40 to 175 years (sentences consecutive)

[Satchmo Distel]

His sentence is 50% longer than Maxwell's.

[WOM]

I thought he was already in jail. I’m not up to date on celebrity news.

He's been locked up since 2019, but this is now full time career jail.

[Sits]

I believe he can't fly.

[Satchmo Distel]

We'll be missing you.

(we won't, obviously)

I think that was Puff Daddy.

[Hot Pepsi]

I thought he was already in jail. I’m not up to date on celebrity news.

[Sheep]

We'll be missing you.

(we won't, obviously)

[WOM]

Buh bye, Rob. May his victims sleep better tonight.

[ursus arctos]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1542227631369748482?s=21&t=pAvzVwy9aafHhoW7yRhAIQ

[ursus arctos]

That isn't something that prosecutors would ever confirm or deny, but at the same time it would be extremely unusual if the possibility was not at least raised at some point during each of the phases of the proceeding (before charge, before trial and after sentencing).

[gjw100]

Do we even know if she and her legal team were given a 'reduced sentence in exchange for the names' offer?

[WOM]

Meanwhile, she provided precisely zero useful information that could have identified any of her clients, and made a very weak apology to her victims, but forced them to go through the trauma of a full trial.

This presumes she was even asked. There seems to be no appetite, beyond the public, to find and name anyone else who was involved. And one gets the sense that there were a few, and we'd know them.

That 'apology' was dire. No ownership at all, with a smattering of 'terrible things were done'.

[Snake Plissken]

is going to be under a more effective suicide watch than her old boyfriend.

Some would argue that her old boyfriends suicide watch was very effective.

[Lymeswold Snork]

Likelihood that she dies in prison?

Within the next week, you mean?

[Balderdasha]

20 years is pitifully short. She's been in jail for two years so far and the media is already spouting nonsense about her helping other prisoners with yoga and reading. I reckon with time served and "good behaviour" she could be out in 6-8 years, before she's 70 years old.

Meanwhile, she provided precisely zero useful information that could have identified any of her clients, and made a very weak apology to her victims, but forced them to go through the trauma of a full trial.

She faces a separate charge for lying under oath during Epstein's trial.

[Eggchaser]

Likelihood that she dies in prison?

Likelihood that any of her clients see jail time is the question.

But I think we know the answer to that...

[ursus arctos]

Relatively small, I'd think.

She is very much the type of prisoner who would be released on compassionate grounds before her demise and is going to be under a more effective suicide watch than her old boyfriend.

[Satchmo Distel]

Likelihood that she dies in prison?

[WOM]

Ghislaine Maxwell has been sentenced to 20 years and a $750,000 fine.

[ursus arctos]

https://twitter.com/truth_eater/status/1537039633795756032?t=wbSRjNlxlXP2tveeFbh7UQ&s=19

[Antepli Ejderha]

https://twitter.com/RachaelMaskell/status/1519367391003693056?t=-IR7cFcK45PKUhVQW9Zoaw&s=19

I can't believe it's taken so long. I wonder how many other positions he holds. Nobody wants a nonce as a patron.

[Antepli Ejderha]

I think you have misread that. Selman Turk is being sued for £40 million. That is for all the frauds Turk is alleged to have perpetrated on Nebahat Isbilen, sums which it is claimed were fraudulently paid to more people than just Andrew Windsor and his connections. Adding the amounts attributed to Andrew et al the most I can make it add up to is £1.35 million, £750k of which has already been returned.

Thanks for pointing that out.

[Janik]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...droidApp_Other

He's being sued for £40 million, wow.

It looks like him and his family have taken millions from this.

I think you have misread that. Selman Turk is being sued for £40 million. That is for all the frauds Turk is alleged to have perpetrated on Nebahat Isbilen, sums which it is claimed were fraudulently paid to more people than just Andrew Windsor and his connections. Adding the amounts attributed to Andrew et al the most I can make it add up to is £1.35 million, £750k of which has already been returned.