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    I just saw Nicholas Witchell doing his weapons-grade royal arselicking on BBC news just now.

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      That man is pure ridiculous. dunno how he can still do the job after Charles dissed him on camera.

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        Interesting which names appear on the Epstein list which are considered newsworthy and which aren't

        fromthe Uk Blair's Former fixer Peter Mandelson and Right wing Journalist turned BBC interviewer Andrew Neil have got very little attention, yet Prince Andrew has been destroyed.

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          Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
          Interesting which names appear on the Epstein list which are considered newsworthy and which aren't

          fromthe Uk Blair's Former fixer Peter Mandelson and Right wing Journalist turned BBC interviewer Andrew Neil have got very little attention, yet Prince Andrew has been destroyed.
          Hi Nef, where is the list of these people?

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            It's Epstein's address book from 2004-05. There is a pdf:

            https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-conten...unredacted.pdf

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              Hi TG Theres a link to the Full list from this article

              other wise googling Epstein and Contacts book will give you most of the names.

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                https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ml#document/p1

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                  Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
                  Interesting which names appear on the Epstein list which are considered newsworthy and which aren't

                  fromthe Uk Blair's Former fixer Peter Mandelson and Right wing Journalist turned BBC interviewer Andrew Neil have got very little attention, yet Prince Andrew has been destroyed.
                  That photo of Andrew is probably the main reason. The others can just claim a business connection, never met socially etc. If a photo of Mandeldon or Neil turns up with their arms round an underage girl they might have questions to answer too.

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                    Mandelson is gay, so his link seems different than access to girls.

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                      He's also a greedy fuck, so I assume it's a money connection in his case.

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                        BBC to air interview with Prince Andrew accuser

                        https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...y_to_clipboard

                        This seems to have been delayed and I'm curious why it's only being shown now.

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                          Between this and Theranos, Boies is not exactly looking good right now.

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                            Yes it seems doubtful if any video evidence will ever see the light of day.

                            Virginia Guiffre is a lot more credible witness than Andy.

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                              Boies has not looked good for some time, as indicated by the now near totemic incantation of his representation of Al Gore in 2000 as establishing his progressive bona fides. There's also his work for Harvey Weinstein, of course, and if the reports of a few ex-colleagues are any guide, his firm is rather less than a great place to practice law.

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                                Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
                                Interesting which names appear on the Epstein list which are considered newsworthy and which aren't

                                fromthe Uk Blair's Former fixer Peter Mandelson and Right wing Journalist turned BBC interviewer Andrew Neil have got very little attention, yet Prince Andrew has been destroyed.
                                I do get your point of how connections help to cover up, but surely Prince Andrew is by nature of his position more newsworthy -- and more publicly accountable -- than a couple of political and media hacks.

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                                  More newsworthy, certainly. More publicly accountable? Hes a member of the royal family, almost by definition they are absolutely not publicly accountable

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                                    Depends on how you apply that. Obviously they are not accountable in as far as there are enforcible sanctions. But there are other ways of holding royals to account -- such as the public anger that forced the queen to submit to quivering her upper lip a bit after the death of Diana. Andrew has been held to account already by organisations hat are cutting ties with him.

                                    But my point doesn't so much reside with the mechanics than the principle of accountability. As somebody in a publicly supported institution, Andrew is answerable to the public in ways a political freelancer or a journalist aren't (though if Marr works for the BBC, an argument could be made that he also has a case to answr, if one exists).

                                    Of course, the idea of any accountability by tax-funded individuals is giving way to brazen impunity where no scandal has consequences because... oh, cat meme!

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                                      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9249616.html

                                      Justin Welby allegedly says we all make mistakes when talking about Prince Andrew.

                                      I think raping a child and being a paedophile allegedly is slightly more than a mistake.

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                                        Welby seems the sort of terrible cunt you'd expect from City Gent turned penitent. A Tory Wet at prayer, at best.

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                                          Can definitely see him voting for Lib Dem incarnation Chuka but.

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                                            He's gone downhill since ITV lost the football contract.

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                                              Prince Andrew giving 'zero' cooperation to Epstein inquiry, say US prosecutors

                                              https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...droidApp_Gmail

                                              I thought he said he would cooperate. Seems like he's playing games, does this mean the alleged paedophile and child rapist has something to hide?

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                                                That really is a huge surprise. I, for one, am hugely surprised. Hugely.

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                                                  Oh, it's easy enough to make empty promises on camera. All one need then do is make oneself completely unavailable when push comes to shove.

                                                  (The use of 'one' there is, of course, partially deliberate.)

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