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Not sure he merits a third thread (also discussed on the Me Too thread), but here is a working link to the "wild theories" story.
The Democrats that I have discussed this with would be perfectly happy to see Clinton go to jail if he is proven to have participated in sex trafficking and/or statutory rape.
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No worries. The link function has been wonky recently.
To me, all Me Too stories are more than that.
I'm somewhat concerned that this is becoming the next silver bullet for a certain portion of the "Reisistance" that is constantly looking for a deus ex machina to get him out of office.
And there are definitely some Democrats who do match your description, as any perusal of comments on Gillibrand/Franken will attest.
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For those not familiar with the details of the Epstein case, this is a solid short precis from the NYT.
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View PostNo worries. The link function has been wonky recently.
To me, all Me Too stories are more than that.
I'm somewhat concerned that this is becoming the next silver bullet for a certain portion of the "Reisistance" that is constantly looking for a deus ex machina to get him out of office.
And there are definitely some Democrats who do match your description, as any perusal of comments on Gillibrand/Franken will attest.
It would not be a bad thing if Epstein's many crimes came to light, but I feel like the Resistance hasn't exactly cottoned on that if Trump is going down then Bill Clinton is absolutely going down, and probably other Democrats on top of that. Nancy Pelosi's daughter kind of gave the game away on that.
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Originally posted by WOM View PostI'd be perfectly happy to see Bill, Donald and Randy Andy go down with Epstein. Creeps, the lot. And only a blind man would see their association as incidental.
Expect there to be a person of colour arrested on some feeble sexual assault charge like Chris Brown or Cuba gooding Jnr as a diversionary tactic.
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What misogynist fuckery is that? Whether the accusations against Chris Brown -- accessory to rape -- are "feeble" is for the French courts to decide. But to describe any rape allegation as "feeble" before it is shown to be so is pretty disgusting. And more so if it is then called a racist diversionary tactic.
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Originally posted by G-Man View PostWhat misogynist fuckery is that? Whether the accusations against Chris Brown -- accessory to rape -- are "feeble" is for the French courts to decide. But to describe any rape allegation as "feeble" before it is shown to be so is pretty disgusting. And more so if it is then called a racist diversionary tactic.
The Chris Brown allegation was feeble as it was debunked pretty quickly.
Also a quick look at the timings and the media coverage of them coincides with certain H. Weinstien going to court and getting more charges dropped. Now it may be a coincidence as far as you are concerned (and that's fair enough). To me it's a pattern.
I am interested in watching this play out and i would be happy to be proved wrong as it would mean a monster will be behind bars.
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View PostFor those not familiar with the details of the Epstein case, this is a solid short precis from the NYT.
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Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post
I never said any rape allegation is feeble G-man and you know it. Actually, I never mentioned the word rape, I said sexual assault so please dial down your fake outrage and playing to the gallery.
The Chris Brown allegation was feeble as it was debunked pretty quickly.
You said about a case of alleged rape: "Expect there to be a person of colour arrested on some feeble sexual assault charge like Chris Brown...". It doesn't matter that you think that some rape or sexual assault allegations aren't feeble. You are calling an allegation that is still under judicial review "feeble".
And it's a really bad example to make your point, which in itself is not without merit. The Brown allegations haven't been "debunked", as far as I know. In May he was supposed to come to Paris for a hearing, which he skipped.
Your dismissal of my response as an inauthentic bid for attention is straight out of the playbook of the defenders of the indefensible.
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G-Man,
as far as I know. In May he was supposed to come to Paris for a hearing, which he skipped.
The article below is much less sensationalised than the American versions that omitted this important fact.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a8932961.html
Did you ask yourself why the French authorities have yet to even threaten let alone even issue an arrest warrant for him?
As for Chris Brown, you know the media have been after him for a very long time. After the Cosby verdict the talking heads in the media clearly said they will be going after him, R Kelly, Michael Jackson and Kobe Bryant. Now more fool Brown for going anywhere a female with such a big target on his back especially after one got him Swatted last year. It is a matter of time before he is behind bars for a sexual or physical assault charge but as the French authorities do not seem to have a personal axe to grind against him, I strongly doubt it is this case.
And thisplaybook of the defenders of the indefensible.
For comparison, check the date on the Chris Brown article with this Weinstein one below
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48393721
Not convinced?
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/11/u...ers/index.html
closely followed by this...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-48960545
These are not coincidences.
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Originally posted by BrunoAmazing story on why Epstein didn't have to be registered as a sex offender in New Mexico (where he has ranch + mansion + private airport).
Dahlia Lithwick's evisceration of Alex Acosta (the current Labor Secretary who oversaw Epstein's sweetheart Florida plea deal in 2008).
Institutional rapism, sad as hell.
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Acosta no doubt got his position for services rendered (many of which had nothing to do with Epstein, no doubt), but Bruno is right that he will be deposited under the bus if the story continues to get prominent attention on the teevee.
Note this morning that Epstein lawyer Ken Starr has been on Fox News 65 times since the arrest without once being asked about his former(?) client.
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Good riddance, of course. But it's interesting that the one senior person taken down on this is the one who protected Epstein and his associates. None of the actual associates seems to have been that damaged by association yet.
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Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View PostNone of the actual associates seems to have been that damaged by association yet.
That has the potential to change (particularly if Ghislaine Maxwell is cooperating fully), but is by no means certain.
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